I want to make something clear with regards to my disagreement with Aesop’s opinion on the Rusty Baldwin shooting. The disagreement that I have with him is about his opinion on this topic. Yes, he and I have disagreed in the past. We have also agreed on topics in the past. That is the nature of human interaction.
I still believe that he and I agree on more topics than not. Don’t take our little discussion as anything other than a disagreement between colleagues.
I don’t have a problem with him or his blog. It’s the nature of human interaction- we don’t always agree. We also have a tendency to circle the wagons when we want to defend our own opinions, which MUST be the correct opinion, or we wouldn’t have it, would we?
Done. · October 24, 2021 at 7:26 pm
Aesops hair has been on fire since 2014, maybe before.
He’s been wrong about 80% of the time, kind of like an inverse Farmers Almanac.
Don’t feel like you need to appease him, he won’t reciprocate.
ChuckInBama · October 24, 2021 at 7:38 pm
The difference between the two of you is that he begins foaming at the mouth when someone disagrees with him and then proceeds to instruct you on how he is the smartest person on the planet, so his opinion is the only correct one. I stopped reading his opinions years ago when I saw he couldn’t take it when people disagree with him. I’m putting him back into obscurity where he belongs.
Hedge · October 25, 2021 at 7:26 am
News today https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10127317/Alec-Baldwin-pointed-gun-camera-weapon-fired-rehearsal.html
Seems the anti gun nut was practicing on his own possibly when the shot was fired. I think it was all on him as first stated. Rule number 1.
I won’t hold my breath for that asshat, buffalo jumping, fancy mouthed pos to change his opinion. You can like him all you want. He’s been dead to me for a long time now.
Bear Claw Chris Lapp · October 25, 2021 at 7:31 am
Been out O town for over a week.
The apostle Paul wrote, “For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:12 NLT)
When we can no longer disagree without being disagreeable they have won. “Dad, many years ago” He also sad “when they come for the guns, its over”. Lets stay united so that doesn’t happen.
A woman is dead, that is sad enough in itself. Whether we like someone or not.
Mike_C · October 25, 2021 at 7:31 pm
Well said. I hope Aesop has said something similar on his blog regarding you, but I have no idea because it would do my blood pressure no good to head over there right now. A break from all that looks good me right now.
And regardless of whether he is correct or incorrect about Baldwin’s killing that woman (more later, this is foreshadowing), it’s been a masterclass in “how to piss off people who should be on your side”.
As far as facts go, I want to know why Baldwin EVER had the gun pointed at Hutchins in the first place. Was it a “James Bond opening montage” type set-up where the actor was supposed to aim at the camera? If not, the gun should never have been pointed in her direction. So that would have been on Baldwin. The fact that we have not been told in the press (which seems in overdrive to protect Baldwin) strongly suggests to me that it was NOT a “Bond opening”.
I don’t care if Baldwin is legally guilty of anything. The man is a bad person who wants to take away my/our rights for no good reason and is therefore an enemy. Regardless of the outcome of any criminal case against Baldwin, I hope that he is impoverished in civil suits, and that his public reputation falls to the nadir enjoyed by Harvey Weinstein. (After all, both of them put things into women without the consent of the women. Lead, penis, that’s just a detail. Less sarcastically, Baldwin has a proven record of committing battery on people and of vicious cruelty to his own child, FFS. What kind of out-of-control asshole says to his 11-yo daughter [you are a] “rude, thoughtless little pig”?) I’m not saying I want Baldwin dead, but frankly if I heard on the news that he cut his own throat out of remorse, I’d probably smile quietly and then go on with my day. What Aesop seems to be not getting is that Baldwin deserves any and everything bad coming his way. Baldwin shooting Hutchins is simply our excuse to pillory him. For all the tough talk, if Aesop fails to understand that it is a cultural war, and that the enemy has been operating no holds barred for decades, and our side needs to do the same to theirs (insert “The Chicago Way” speech here) then he’s got a bigger problem than any disagreements with you (or me).
Foreshadowing: here is analysis of the Baldwin killing by lawyer Andrew Branca, who is a 2A and self-defense specialist. For the impatient, skip to 24:23 where Branca specifically addresses whether Baldwin gets a pass for being “an actor” under New Mexico law. [spoiler: no, there is no “actor pass”, at least not in the letter of the law — if local authorities decline to charge, that’s for other reasons, like maybe wanting more movies shot (as opposed to directors of photography) in New Mexico. But legally, Baldwin is culpable.]
Big Ruckus D · October 25, 2021 at 9:45 pm
You, sir, get it. While Aesop has acknowledged that baldwin is a prick and deserves to get ruined by civil liability, his over the top defense of industry rules – and more so his open antagonism of those arguing they are shitty standards in contravention to his position – is where he went off into the weeds. His liberal use of personal attacks and cutesy insults against anyone not in 110% lockstep agreement with his stated positions is not a good look. Unless one is just there to troll him in his own house, who wants to stick around for that sort of shit?
I used to get off the rails and debate a bit too forcefully like that occasionally, and it pisses off people who you want and need in your corner. That makes it self defeating, even if one is technically right on the facts. I’m still an opinionated asshole, and will give anyone a run for their money in an argument, but I make a concerted effort not to run off those who are nominal allies. I also don’t waste time repeatedly going back to the same trough, when I already know the feed is shitty.
As it should be, he is welcome to say whatever he wants. He is also welcome to be given the big fuck off by those he rubs wrong with his insults. Kind of funny that he chose as a nom de plume the moniker of guy famous for writing fables. I mightn’t have done that if I were in his position.
21stCenturyCassandra · October 26, 2021 at 12:19 am
Yes, this. Aesop is a smart guy. So is Vox Day, and so is Karl Denninger at Market Ticker. All of them have the tendency to be flaming anal orifices to people who question their supreme wisdom.
On this topic, which Aesop hasn’t shut up about since it happened, he resembles a feminine hygiene product a lady might use on a Summer’s Eve. And the bag it comes in.
Big Ruckus D · October 26, 2021 at 12:46 am
Heh. I read Market Ticker daily, and still check Vox’s site routinely, though contrary to his assertion, I did come to his site for the comments. Since he moved his site’s commenting to Social Galactic, much of the appeal (for me anyway) has been lost as I enjoyed the cross section of intelligent and humorous comments that he typically had at his old site.
Karl Denninger is a guy I respect as he clearly has a wide range of knowledge, is a self made man, writes cogently in a style I find engaging, demands competence, and while he is prone to getting pissed off and applying the banhammer (hey, his house, his rules), he doesn’t do it with the added nuclear fallout Aesop delivers.
His biggest weakness in my estimation is a desire to sometimes still frame things as they should be, rather than as they are. As an example, his writings routinely reference putative judicial relief of wrongs committed by government or corporations, as if that is still something to be routinely expected in our current system. I’ve no such faith that I, as a non-insider, could ever get legal remedy if I get screwed by the system.
The realizaion of this trend has clearly lead many to think like me in having no reason to expect, much less pursue, judicial solutions to such problems we may encounter. I don’t comment there, but I see more and more commenters echoing that sentiment in threads where the subject of relying on courts to make something right is broached.
While I can find quibbles with some of his wiritngs, overall, I think his is the best site of its kind online right now.
Skeptic · October 26, 2021 at 7:13 am
Aesop is a little cunt. He lost all credibility with me when he went full Covidian, and he has never recanted that stance. He just wants to prove how much smarterer he is than anyone else. Personally, I think he’d a complete fraud.
Angus McThag · November 2, 2021 at 12:49 am
I’m in his sights at present.
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