Here is a precinct level map of the 2020 election. This is where the battle lines will be.

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Aesop · December 20, 2023 at 12:02 am

Sorry, no.

The battle lines will be lines of code on vote-counting algorithms, and behind-the-scenes vote counting shenanigans with suitcases of fake ballots, as before.

Precincts are merely the smoke-and-mirrors part of the trick to provide a veneer of legitimacy, and fool the rubes.
Up sleeves and behind curtains is where the nuts and bolts of the magic happens, as ever.

    Divemedic · December 20, 2023 at 5:13 am

    I’m not talking about the election. When things go kinetic, this is where the two sides will be.

      Joe Blow · December 20, 2023 at 6:47 am

      While I love disparaging Nurse Ratchet, you’re both right.
      There will be massive fraud as before, only worse. Suppression will reign supreme, and I fully expect martial law or something similar, as this one really is for all the marbles.
      There will be shenanigans, fake ballots, burst water pipes and suitcases of ballots, there will be calls for investigations, there will be all the same things we saw 4 years ago, on steroids.
      Then the declaration will be made, and we will be faced with a choice again, to accept our fate as handed to us or to stand up and make our own. Really that simple. The rest of the ‘stuff’ is just mental masturbation.
      Grok that… what we’re witnessing, is pawns being moved about the board, no real outcome, nothing but something to pass the time and distract the people. The decision was made 3+ years ago, they already ARE all in. Do you not get that? If Trump wins, they hang. WILL. NOT. BE. ALLOWED. Trump will not be allowed to be President. There’s 22 ways that can go, but grok the fact they will not let him win, no matter what they have to do to prevent it, no bridge is too far at this point. That’s not just me venting on the lunatic lefties, Hillary said it in her lost election on the hot-mic moment, if he wins we all hang, why did she say that? Because they’ve all committed treason, and that was in 2016. Since then?
      They’ll hang if he wins, so he will not be allowed to win. They’ll try lawfare, like in Colorado and Georgia, but in the end, if they have to give him the Kennedy treatment, they will. Make no bones about it, the situation is that binary now.
      The communists win and hold power, cementing their grip further, or they are exposed and hung as traitors to their nation. No other road forward I can see, really.

      Birdog357 · December 20, 2023 at 7:59 am

      There won’t be battle lines. It will be street to street and house to house.

        Aesop · December 21, 2023 at 3:21 am

        ^That, right there.

      Jonesy · December 20, 2023 at 8:55 am

      We definitely have them surrounded. It won’t be as easy as it looks.

        Divemedic · December 20, 2023 at 9:04 am

        FYI- Your comment was the 24,000th comment on this blog.

      Aesop · December 21, 2023 at 3:20 am

      Still not very predictive.
      The red precincts aren’t all red, and the blue ones aren’t all blue. None of them, anywhere.
      This is not only not North against South, it’s not even urban vs. rural, or anything like so clear-cut.

      The battle lines will be street to street, house to house, floor to floor, and even room to room within families, everywhere.
      Think All In The Family, with machetes and hatchets.

      What they won’t be is “Here” to “There”.
      Here and There are Everywhere.

      The only good news is that, just like in Revolution 1.0, it only takes a committed 3% to effect permanent change on the other 97%.
      And there aren’t many places, even at the precinct level, where either side has a 98+% or better presence.

      A serious map would be 3000 shades of purple, and would represent precinct size according to the actual population present within the boundaries.

      You’d be able to count the red and blue areas for each side on your fingers, if not your thumbs.

      What it’s going to come down to is commitment, and no one knows how serious either side is about that until it’s all kinetic, all the time.

      Some people like to think the Left has an advantage, but things like the Rittenhouse Hat Trick and the Moldylocks Punch tell a decidedly different story.
      The Leftards never do as well when the range is hot in both directions.

      The election is going to be the Left’s big push to bring that eventuality to pass.
      Because they really think they can win that fight.

      It’s going to be Thunderdome Cage Match of all time.

wojtek · December 20, 2023 at 12:02 am

I think this one is a bit more realistic:

SoCoRuss · December 20, 2023 at 3:05 pm

DM, Thanks for clarifying this isnt about the magical fix everything 24 election, that I believe wont happen. So please excuse the rant coming.
If this is about county level warfare. It would be interesting to know the number of red counties. Because then you can divide up the 20-30 million fighting age illegals along with the clearly foreign military components that have come over and you can figure out how many will be sent to each red county to destroy it.
Please don’t anyone tell me about how bubba will fight them with his deer rifle. We are talking 20 fucking million fighters with military weapons and professional military/trained terrorist leaders embedded in them and some american military and federal agents types helping just for funzies. They don’t have to direct engage with bubba. Just shut down all infrastructure, roads, fuel, water, electricity, sewer and food. Just isolate the counties and cut them off from supplies and support, its simple. Now watch the fun the locals have with their current savage race residents by themselves. Direct engagements will come after the thinning and weakening of the herd.
As a factoid, parts of our military( historically all males in my family were once one) are trained to bring down “foreign” counties, states, regions and countries with smaller in size groups than you can believe possible. Its not real hard for a high tech society like ours to be crashed, its the less developed/more self reliant ones that are harder to bring down.

    Aesop · December 21, 2023 at 3:47 am

    That’s a two-edged sword, and if they try it, they lose.
    They’d be pointing a gun at their own heads, and telling you not to move, or they’d shoot.

    Cutting off counties would turn every city into Stalingrad (within days), including D.C. (actually, that one will be the “firstest with the worstest” in that respect). Planes wouldn’t fly, ships wouldn’t sail, trains wouldn’t travel, and trucks wouldn’t roll. Figure the odds on Lancaster County PA vs. Pittsburgh or Philthydelphia’s chances in that equation. The city die-off would be biblical; the country folks wouldn’t even miss a night’s sleep.

    All those “military aged fighters” are going to be getting hell wherever they go, and when your meat suit is your uniform, the cities crash and burn like Damascus at the end of Lawrence Of Arabia in a couple of days to a couple of weeks. An armed mob is still just a mob.

    There aren’t enough regulars and reservists in the current DotMil to secure even NYFC from the internal population of rednecks and refuseniks within the Five Boroughs that would arise, and that’s before we factor in the criminal element free-for-all that every major city barely contains right this minute, 24/7/365.

    “20 million fighters” won’t even put a serious dent in the ammo supply already in private hands, and by two weeks in, most places will be out of targets to service. The race will be to see who gets in a kill or two before there’s no one left to shoot at.

    See who wants to be Agent Whitebread in the capitol two days after D.C. goes dark, cold, and hungry.
    It’s going to be Isandlwana, x 1000.

    The DotMil will either RTB and hunker down to wait for the winner to emerge, to whom they will declare undying fealty; or else they’ll become a resupply point for everyone else.
    My money’s on “A”, for a host of reasons. Mainly, because they don’t want “B”.

    Countless individuals, all by their onesies, have tied the police state up in knots in recent times.
    Dorner, the Washington Sniper pair, the Boston Bombers, etc.
    Now imagine TPTB trying to cope with a few hundred such, in every city and town. Or even a few thousand.
    And no small number of them with experience in both combat, and counter-insurgency, except this time, being the “G”. There will likely be more than a few turncoats within the police state’s ranks as well, which will accelerate the devolution.

    The reason Special Forces works is that the guerrilla always has the initiative, and defeating them requires a 10:1 numerical advantage, minimum.

    Team Oppression starts on the wrong end of that teeter-totter, with a 100:1 disadvantage, and that’s if we only assume that only the deer hunters start shooting at them, weapons-free.
    The last time anyone tried odds like that was the 7th Cavalry at the Little Big Horn.
    It didn’t go well for them.

    Ultimately, I just don’t think TPTB can convince 20-50M people, minimum, that they’re all alone, and get them all to stand down, once things get sporty.
    They can’t stop the signal. You can never stop the signal.

      Divemedic · December 21, 2023 at 7:52 am

      That’s why blogs and social media are important. It’s about controlling the message

SoCoRuss · December 21, 2023 at 1:20 pm

I agree in part but, The issue then would be what the motive is. People that watch all these groups around the world as a profession have all noticed massive changes in tactic. How many people are aware of that Hamas and Hezbollah and others now use forest fires as a terror tactic? Think about that when you watch our normal yearly forest fires and then multiply by by hundreds all at the same time.If its to create massive chaos and wait for the survivors then a force multiplier is on their side. Shutting down all infrastructure means the good guy have to divide resources to more and more different fronts. When the locusts come out of the cities and they will that will divide the county resources even more. There is a limit of what rural areas can do in defense on their own. I agree with the folks that say areas/regions will coalesce together for support with like minded and the FUSA will become numbers of allied states/mini countries. The idea of one country (BIG USA) anymore is dead. No one that lives thru this will let that happen because they know the subversion will start all over again
All I’m saying is there is a new dynamic at work here and globally. I have had this discussion with old friends and former and current folks where I worked. All of us feel there is something different going on here but cant put our fingers on what/why yet. I’m afraid none will until after the surprise happens.
That’s the end of this rant.

DM, I want to thank you for this blog, its my #1 go to. Open discussion, various topics, common sense and respect to folks opinions without personal attacks. Plus the added bonus of both you and Aesop at times. I may not agree fully with Aesop at times, I do respect him and him and his opinions. He has incite on topics that I find very informative. And I fully agree with him that no matter what DotGov or DotGolbalist does you cant stop the signal or defeat an Idea.

    Divemedic · December 21, 2023 at 5:03 pm

    Don’t think for a moment that all of the city dwellers are going to act in total cooperation, especially once the rural areas cut off the food, water, and electricity. Picture the Seattle mess with the idiots who setup their own little communes.

    It’s been said that America is four meals away from chaos. I saw for myself during my time on the ground in Hurricane Katrina- shit goes south pretty quickly.

      Aesop · December 21, 2023 at 10:09 pm

      Agreed. The cities are going to have their hands full with just themselves.
      And what spreads out will be onesie-twosies, and small families or bands, at most.
      All at the mercy of other such, and opportunistic predators. They will be no match for the average country mouse.

      Read Selco and FerFal for a good preview of what that looks like in real time.

      Civilization will have the consistency of a column of freshly-poured concrete, minus any rebar, and without any Sonotube to hold it up: Everything’s coming down in a heaping slump.

      It’s going to be an epic shitshow, and the first priority is to be somewhere else, and wait out the first year die-off.

      After that, with only 10-15% as many in the population, it becomes an entirely different problem set, largely along the lines of a race to re-develop a local world less reminiscent of the Turd World, and closer to the Industrial Revolution one.

      I always like to think on what might have happened to a lone French or Low Country farm family (or for that matter, a Japanese nisei family on the US West Coast in 1941) that had built a well-hidden underground bunker they decamped to in 1939, and just quietly sat things out for 6 or 7 years.

      Interesting times are upon us.

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