As Miguel over at GunFreeZone points out, illegals are now squatting in vacant homes and using the law to steal it. Imagine that you go on a trip for a week, only to come home and find that there are squatters living there.
Now that the courts have said illegal immigrants can own firearms, where does that leave you, the original and legitimate homeowner? It’s a legally grey area. Florida 776.013 says:
(1) A person who is in a dwelling or residence in which the person has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use or threaten to use:
(a) Nondeadly force against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force; or
(b) Deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
What makes this suck is that the squatters usually have some sort of fake documentation (like a lease), indicating that they are legitimately living there. That shoves the stealing of your house out of criminal court and into civil court. Now they use landlord/tenant law and force you to have to evict them. That could take months, and they are trashing your house in the interim.
Sure, it would be nice to simply shoot the bastards and toss them out with the trash, but in this case, you are legally the intruder and they can use lethal force and the castle doctrine against you. Sucks, right?
There is only one solution that permits you to defend against this without risking jail time:
Have a good burglar alarm with security cameras. If someone breaks in, you call a trusted friend or nearby relative that you have given written and notarized permission to watch over your property while you are not there and have them meet the cops over there. Make sure that the papers you give them specifically grant them the authority to have intruders trespassed.
Get the cops involved BEFORE the squatters have a chance to draw up fake papers. It becomes a legal mess after that.
As usual, I am not a lawyer and this isn’t legal advice, but you already should know that.
10 Comments
Noway2 · March 22, 2024 at 8:06 am
I don’t understand how a fake, forged, document gives them a legal right to be there. Based upon experience, where a contractor committed fraud, embezzlement, and taking property under false pretenses from my mother, I agree, sadly, that the cops will point to the fact that there was a contract involved and claim it’s civil, not criminal even if the contract was part and parcel to the crime. Why do their damned job if they don’t have to? Still, I don’t see where their fraud invokes castle doctrine, but then don’t expect the same system that won’t do their job to see it that way.
Divemedic · March 22, 2024 at 10:30 am
The law says that once a person can establish that he was invited, then the castle doctrine and stand your ground are no longer in your favor. In the eyes of the law, he has as much right to be there as you do, because he has a document that says you rented the place to him.
You can always prove in court that the document was faked, but that takes time, lawyers, and money. The law wants you to use the courts to get them out, and not simply go in there shooting everyone. The problem is that the courts are slow, and the squatters are in your house in the interim, trashing the place.
EN2 SS · March 22, 2024 at 3:50 pm
In reference to the dead gun dealer in another post, if the squatters are all dead, any papers burnt, who is going to prove otherwise?
Michael · March 22, 2024 at 8:22 am
What are the water rules in your area. I’ve always kept the water and the bill in my name.
A house with water turned off isn’t much of a prize.
Divemedic · March 22, 2024 at 10:31 am
The law says that since they have a lease, you can’t do things like shut off utilities to get them out. They can sue you and then you will be paying them to live in your house.
RP McMurphy · March 22, 2024 at 10:13 am
A Replacement posted up on CCP-Tok how to do it and I keep my eye on several vacancies here locally.
Homes are still affordable in Red State even as the massive influx for the Fundamental Transformation into the hammer and sickle rolls on.
This depends on location as Harold the Brain moved to five acres in Pineland at a cost of $500k right before the Stig Beal he moved, smart.
NYC and suburbs are now using bad azz local “vigilantes” for undocumented evictions.
In Haiti they go whole barbecue and hack off the hands of gang members raiding wealthy enclaves while encouraging neighbors to arm up and fight.
Coming here soon and especially in FLA with 300k and more incoming, the goal of the internal quisling traitors is 100 million for one party (CPUSA) rule in perpetuity.
D · March 22, 2024 at 11:17 am
> Get the cops involved BEFORE the squatters have a chance to draw up fake papers. It becomes a legal mess after that.
It’s absolutely atrocious that this can happen. I mean, I get it being a civil matter…but when it’s proven they drew up fake contracts, they need to go to jail for a long time for that fraud.
Government’s whole job is to protect the rights of individuals. They are failing badly in this area.
Three If By Air · March 23, 2024 at 12:34 am
The Bracken was right.
O’Brandon has ordered the Coast Guard to escort the “newcomers” to Florida.
Muriel boatlift on steroids and Tony Montanas are onboard.
Making WAR on all weakness as the time of the hot condiment toppings has arrived.
Get your sporks tuned and ready.
Divemedic · March 23, 2024 at 8:06 am
Do you have a source for that report? I can’t find one.
ModernDayJeremiah · March 24, 2024 at 12:05 am
Saw this on HotAir that maybe the FL leg is doing something about it:
https://hotair.com/headlines/2024/03/23/fl-took-all-of-72-hours-to-pass-a-bill-addressing-the-squatter-problem-n3785269
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2024/03/08/florida-lawmakers-unanimously-pass-bill-to-combat-squatting-giving-property-owners-positive-hope/
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