The Brevard County Sheriff’s office has announced that their SROs are going to be carrying rifles at all times while at school. Lest you think that they are going to be kitted up like SEAL team 6, they aren’t. Instead, they were pictured to look like the below picture. Can anyone help me out by identifying the rifle that this guy is carrying?
EDITED TO ADD: The rifle in question has been identified. It is a Kel-Tec Sub 2000. What kind of stupid, feel good Kabuki theater bullshit is this? A 9mm PCC, and not even a very good one, at that.
Ratus · August 9, 2022 at 1:32 pm
Well, it’s not that bad. It might even boost their hit rate.
But it’s not what I would choose for supplemental carry.
Anonymous · August 9, 2022 at 1:40 pm
Okay, I can kind of see where they may be coming from in choosing a 9mm PCC, because there is less chance of over-penetration being a concern compared to a true rifle caliber. While I do have a Sub2000, and I like it, I could think of other 9mm PCC that would be better suited, unless they are going for something that is not as “scary” looking as an AR platform or Ruger’s PC9.
Will · August 13, 2022 at 6:47 pm
“…because there is less chance of over-penetration being a concern compared to a true rifle caliber.”
You are so wrong. 9mm is about the most penetrative cartridge in common use. Out of a handgun it will blow through about 3 houses worth of walls.
The swat types switched to 5.56/.223 because it tends to blow up in the first or second wall encountered. Same for 7.62, pretty much. I’ve seen 7.62 NATO steel jacketed/cored bullet exit the first wall in two pieces, exit a second wall and bounce off a wood fence.
The Freeholder · August 9, 2022 at 2:42 pm
I suspect the choice is driven by it being small. Notice how the whole gun fits within the profile of his body. Plus an SRO’s work is generally inside a school, not outside.
Full disclosure, a Sub2000 is my truck gun. I thought I’d rather have an AR, but that whole size thing is what won me over.
Divemedic · August 9, 2022 at 3:23 pm
But are you planning on doing a solo charge after someone in a fatal funnel that is armed with an AR? It isn’t about range. Its about power. This is not much better than the 9mm they already carry.
SiG · August 9, 2022 at 5:28 pm
A factor might be that Keltec is headquartered in Brevard. Maybe some sort of discount or other handshaking?
Ultra Banana · August 9, 2022 at 6:19 pm
Nine is not a rifle round what happens if the mind control err I mean shooter has a long range rifle where he can sit back at a distance out of range?
O/T-CPUSA voting base is getting lippy, almost uppity, after the STASI raid on Trump.
I appreciate the honesty and the end of that unity kabuki that never existed in the first place.
joe · August 9, 2022 at 7:31 pm
it doesn’t look scary…that’s why sro’s don’t carry ar’s already…they make the parents “feel good” but the officer is carrying a shouldered pistol in reality…i mean shit, just let them carry a roni if they are going to do that crap…
greg · August 9, 2022 at 9:41 pm
They prolly already have a ton of glock mags to use in it. Less than 500$ and you already have a boat load of mags and ammo. With 33rd mags they can spray and pray.
Didn’t the Columbine killers use planet of apes kel tec in 9mm (non assault rifle compliant) with 10rd mags? They got a lot of hits.
BraulerBob · August 9, 2022 at 10:52 pm
The killers in the Columbine shooting used a Hi-Point 9mm carbine with 10 round mags (lots of them). They also used a Tec-9 pistol with High capacity Mags (28 & 32 rounds). They also used a double barreled Stevens shotgun (FJB special) sawed off to an illegal barrel length and a 12 ga. pump.
The Kel-Tec S2000 is not a bad choice for a quick, first response. It is small, lightweight and uses the same Glock Mags the officer carries anyways. Just carry a few more or 33 rounders on the vest. I can reliably hit an IPSC target with mine at 75-100 yards with the iron sights. As the first responder on site, the SRO needs to be able to engage quickly to draw fire from the active shooter to keep the kids from being the primary targets. Having the Kel-Tec on body is better than having to go to the Office to retrieve an AR that the school doesn’t want the kids to see commonly around the hallways.
Would I like something bigger or more powerful? Sure. How about a FN P90? Still small and easy to carry but with a larger magazine capacity and a round that will defeat soft body armor where the 9mm carbine will not. But it loses the magazine interchangeability with the officer’s sidearm and costs five times as much.
Kel-Tecs are cheap, er, inexpensive and offer many advantages for only a limited number of tradeoffs.
Divemedic · August 10, 2022 at 11:53 am
You make some good points.
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