Here is a continuation of my research on gun safes. I finally heard back from another company, Steelwater Gun Safes. This is what they had to say in response to my question about backdoor passwords:

Steelwater Gun Safes digital locks do not have a bypass code due to the bypass key lock. There is no need for a bypass code as the bypass key will allow access if the keypad fails or if the codes have been lost or forgotten.   If a key is needed, the original purchaser on file must send us proper identification before a key can be purchased from us.

Their safes are much cheaper than the Champion that I was looking at in my earlier post, but since they are claiming that there is no back door, I will recommend them as a cheaper alternative for those who are looking for a new safe. From their literature, it looks to be a better product than the other safes in the midlevel price range ($2k-5k). The 42 inch safe costs around $3700. I will stress that I don’t have one, but it does look promising and the company says the right things.

I talked to a safe guy today. He suggested an even cheaper alternative: you can change the lock. Your choices are to buy a new lock, or you can simply swap locks with another person who has a safe with a compatible lock. As long as the backdoor that your safe company may have installed is particular to YOUR safe, and not every similar lock, it’s a cheap alternative. Or you can purchase a mechanical lock and do it that way. A new mechanical lock costs in the neighborhood of $140.

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Birdog357 · September 7, 2023 at 5:01 pm

An interesting experiment would be for two liberty owners to both request the bypass codes to their own safes, and then compare them…

    Its just Boris · September 7, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    That could confirm there is a universal code, but would not prove there isn’t. It’s an electronic lock, and ROM space is cheap.

Barbarus · September 7, 2023 at 5:38 pm

If they can send the purchaser a bypass key, then in principle they could send it to anyone. Of course, we do now have their word they wouldn’t do that …

    Divemedic · September 7, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    Bypass keys can be disabled by the simple expedient of injecting superglue into the lock.

neomunitor · September 7, 2023 at 6:13 pm

I changed out my electronic lock for a mechanical S&G last year. Took a few hours and had to pull the back of the door off to make sure it would fit, but turns out most of the electronic locks are designed to fit the exact same holes as a mechanical S&G. Did have to drill the fourth hole as only three were provided, and had to modify the relocker to fit the S&G, so all in all took about 4 hours, taking my time, and an hour of that was replacing the door panel with pegboard and hanging pistols on it. Watched a youtube video ahead of time to see the process. S&G locksets have shot up in price overnight from $92 to $137 on Amazon

Be Quick · September 7, 2023 at 7:32 pm

Hold on, let me grab my gun from the safe and release the safety. (/s)

Joe Blow · September 7, 2023 at 9:45 pm

Thanks for sharing your research!
Saved me some time, I dunno about tne rest of you guys.

EN2 SS · September 8, 2023 at 6:46 am

Interesting video on utube by a locksmith on how to get around liberty safe crap.

    Divemedic · September 8, 2023 at 7:15 am

    His advice is to change the lock. I agree, but why would you change the lock with another that you KNOW has at least one backdoor access code? You are buying a security product that is already compromised. There is no guarantee that there aren’t other access codes in that lock. That’s why I am recommending that you should change it out with a mechanical lock. You lose a bit of convenience, but gain that security back.

Steve · September 8, 2023 at 6:54 am

Before settling on a safe, I’d look at how the lockpickinglawyer has picked open safes, or otherwise bypassed the safe’s security.

Noway2 · September 8, 2023 at 2:55 pm

Distance may make this a non feasible option for many, but I do recommend Drake Safe Co in Roxboto, NC. You’ll pay more than an equivalent commercial one, but they’re worth it. A local guy had a house fire that burned the place to ashes. Inside the safe, the guns had some plastic stocks that melted, but were replaceable and some papers browned but we’re still legible. It did it’s job under the most extreme of circumstances.

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