So Biden finally decided to order the shoot down of the Chinese spy balloon over the Atlantic ocean, after it had already crossed the entire country and was no longer useable as a spying craft. This allows him to claim that he took decisive action while keeping his overlords in China happy.


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GreenCross4Safety · February 4, 2023 at 4:20 pm

Asshat indeed.

Matthew · February 4, 2023 at 4:43 pm

It should have been dealt with the moment it crossed 11.99 miles from the coast of Alaska and the CCP should have been billed for the tracking, destruction and clean-up.

Seize all CCP held real property in the US and boot their lying asses out of all diplomatic installations.


    JaimeInTexas · February 5, 2023 at 2:43 pm

    It looked like the A2A missle hit the payload and not the balloon. If so, I guess nothing to extract intelligence will be found.
    At the begining of this event I wondered why not just use one of our wizbang aircraft mounted lasers to poke a couple of holes in the balloon and let it slowly descend. Once low enough the balloon could be snagged with a grapple hook hanging on a long line from under a helicopter.

      Divemedic · February 5, 2023 at 4:50 pm

      A2A missiles don’t impact the target. They use fragmentation to increase the chances of a hit. The area where the balloon went down has a depth of about 50 feet. The pieces should be recoverable. There were all kinds of notices for aircraft and vessels to avoid the area.

        Michael · February 5, 2023 at 5:44 pm

        50 feet of water? Interesting as in Chinese Curse “May you live in Interesting Times.”

        Even more interesting if anything comes of this recovery since interesting things like Hunter Bidens laptop could “disappear” for so long.

Karl · February 4, 2023 at 5:55 pm

it might play well a year from now with some, but the “decisive” aspect is DOA because our ‘top men’ waited until 50+ kick-ass memes hit the Internet. And those don’t go away.

Biden also missed the opportunity for some fun. For example: 1) “No, we do not think the balloon is filled with another China virus, but out of an abundance of caution we decided to deflate it over the Atlantic.” or 2) “Typical. Another China import that works only once” or 3) “30 minutes after you shoot down a Chinese spy balloon, you want to do it all over again.”

June J · February 4, 2023 at 6:37 pm

Biden said he gave order on Wednesday to shoot down the balloon, the DOD confirmed he gave the order. DOD decided that it wasn’t safe to shoot down over land.
Now it’s been safely shot down 12 miles out from the coast and the devices are not likely to be recovered. How convenient for China, Biden and the DOD.

    Divemedic · February 4, 2023 at 8:53 pm

    That’s BS. The CIC gives the order, the military obeys. They can’t disobey an order just because they don’t think its safe. That is the military and the WH trying to spin Biden’s inaction.

      WDS · February 5, 2023 at 10:05 am

      I agree. why didn’t President Muffly just tell General Buck Turgidson that he had heard “quite sufficient” from him?

      What a sh*t-show.

        Anonymous · February 6, 2023 at 9:31 am

        There are no “Biden” policies. Biden decides nothing, orders nothing, and certainly is not in command. The unelected, unaccountable cabal of leftists in control of the administration decide everything right down to Joe’s bathroom breaks.

        Can we please stop pretending that we have a president?

Ancient Chinese Secret · February 4, 2023 at 10:58 pm

Trump ended the Open Skies Treaty and they needed to update?
The official most bestest narrative is that they didn’t want to burst the balloon of diplomacy as Stinkin’ Blinken is due to meet with his CCP comrades soon.
There is a Wuhan level biolab in Kansas and all kinds of MIL bases and silos where the Fang Fang balloon was floating.
It may have been cancelled and how do we know anything was shot down?

Michael · February 5, 2023 at 7:09 am

Just because slow China Joe was installed as the puppet, why do you think HE’s in CHARGE of anything?

I’ve the idea there’s many groups “Running” the show known as District of Criminals.” It seems to explain the often-contradictory behaviors and utterances that require constant “Backtracking”.

Thus, I think maybe the Chinese balloon was an inexpensive test to see if the BRIBED politicians and General Miley (did I repeat myself here?) are still obeying their orders from the CCCP.

Sort of like when you teach a dog only to eat from your hand and then test the dog with someone else trying to feed it.

If so, the Bribed ones PASSED only destroying the balloon upon command from CCCP after MISSION Complete and in deep water to prevent effective recovery.

Disturbing co-thought if it was a proof of concept of a semi-controllable balloon could carry a # kilo payload, what distance and what few square miles of accuracy. EMP and bioweapons don’t need great accuracy to be effective.

Not to mention the Sun Tzu side of embarrassing the US Military like a mini-fleeing Afghanistan in the eyes of the world. Optic is important.

D · February 5, 2023 at 12:27 pm

Maybe I’ve been missing it…but I’ve read a good ~25 articles on the “spy balloon” and have yet to find one single official who would be “in the know” who can tell me *why* it’s a “spy balloon” as opposed to a weather balloon. Not that I’m defaulting to “it’s whatever China says it is”….but in most cases, a balloon is worthless compared to satellites. Spy satellites are harder to take out, can usually get spectacular images (i.e. able to count the dimples on a golf ball from space). A hypersonic missile would have been a better way of dropping a nuke than a balloon and more difficult to stop. A balloon typically has no propulsion which means it drifts wherever the wind takes it which makes targeting difficult (unless your intent is to just hurt a random place in the US). About the only thing I can think a balloon would be more useful than a satellite would be gathering EM signal data. I recall something about signals degrading exponentially over distance….but I’m not really an RF guy, so I can’t say for certain.

We launch weather balloons all the damn time. If I recall correctly, we launch two *government* weather balloons every day to check meteorological conditions….oh look…here it is:

Maybe I missed something, but this seems like a huge nothingburger of a distraction.

    Divemedic · February 5, 2023 at 1:47 pm

    They payload of a weather balloon is the size of a six pack of beer. The Chinese balloon was reportedly the size of 3 school buses.

      D · February 5, 2023 at 2:37 pm

      Finally, a news source that provides some basic details.

      China is pretty good at creating or sourcing components that are on-par or better than the stuff we pack into electronic equipment, so based on size alone, it’s probably doing a lot more than your average weather balloon.

      That size difference alone is enough to swing the needle towards being suspicious of the contents and intent of the balloon.

      I’d love to see what’s in the payload…although I doubt we’ll ever hear much of anything.


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