The federal government has been spending money on research intended to support gun control. What they found is not surprising. They discovered that rural children have access to guns, with one in six rural ‘children’ claiming that they have carried a gun before age 26. This is twice the rate that urban young people admit carrying guns.
In a post from 2013, I showed that 53% of US homicides occurred in cities with populations of over 100,000. Urban areas. Now cities of that size are where 28% of the US population lives. When homicide statistics are combined with the results of the above study, we can see that in places where a person is twice as likely to be carrying a gun, a person’s chances of being a homicide victim are much lower.
That is what is known as negative correlation. That is, as the rate of firearm possession increases, the chances of being a victim of homicide decreases. To put it more simply, more guns mean fewer homicides.
Haven’t those of us who oppose gun control been saying that for several decades?
On a side note, what are researchers doing asking children in the sixth grade to report on whether or not mommy and daddy have guns in the house? Yet another mark against leftist educators.
A second side note. The website that published this article is a website dedicated to physics. What dis this study have to do with physics? Isn’t this more in the realm of sociology?
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Steve · April 8, 2022 at 5:37 am
I read that story a couple days ago.
Related: Earlier I saw a bunch of headlines about some study that shows that a gun in the home increases the chances of being a homicide victim. I didn’t bother reading any of them.
Therefore · April 8, 2022 at 6:25 am
As Steve says there have been a number of articles hitting my feed lately about a new study that proves that having a gun in the home increases the probability of someone in the home being the victim of homicide.
I couldn’t make it through the article. At no point did they give enough information to know if this was cause or effect.
If you are a male poc living in the city with a single mom the probability of dying goes way up. So obviously it is being male that is the problem.
The last time this result was reported there were a number of errors in the report. The biggest was that people they live in places or who per take in practices were people want to kill them often possess guns.
Jen · April 8, 2022 at 7:43 am
Re, Second to last paragraph:
The DARE program. Ostensibly to keep kids from joining the drug culture. The assignments include snooping on parents’ medicine cabinets, reporting on their habits, and reporting any weapons in the home, particularly firearms. To the officer running the program!
It’s billed as this feel good program, mandatory in schools, but in actuality is just getting the kids to report their families to the government. And turn them against any parent keeping a firearm in the house.
Had to stop homeschooling and enrolled my kids in school, and was thusly rewarded.
all your taxes are belong to us · April 8, 2022 at 9:33 am
Dat’s wayciss! Laws regarding permits and gun free zones help to make the workers utopias known as cities equitable for the collective.
Toothless hill scoggin rube deplorable untermenschen scum needing arms to hunt or fend off large animals/humans is a construct of the white male patriarchy.
Tax day is coming up, no shirking comrade, we’re all in this together.
Forward! Yes we can.
Jonathan · April 8, 2022 at 9:55 am
Ugh, yet another poorly done study with too little information released to tell how well or poorly done.
A few points I can say:
– Their sample size of only 2,000 is way too small.
– Defining 26 year olds as “youth” is ridiculous when in every state they are eligible for carry permits (whether they can get them is a different issue), as well as them being the majority of the military…
This reminds me of the Canadian study a couple years ago on immigrant youth and guns – they defined youth as up to 25, and they defined police shootings as “accidents”. They also defined”immigrant” as including anyone whos grandparents had emigrated to Canada.
Don Curton · April 8, 2022 at 11:52 am
“That is what is known as negative correlation. That is, as the rate of firearm possession increases, the chances of being a victim of homicide decreases. To put it more simply, more guns mean fewer homicides.”
Not necessarily. It could just mean that rural (and largely white) people are both less criminally inclined AND more accepting of gun ownership. I’ll leave unstated the demographics of large cities.
Divemedic · April 8, 2022 at 12:32 pm
I said corellation. I never mentioned the cause. I stand by the statement.
Don Curton · April 10, 2022 at 6:31 am
10-4. My bad, correlation does not mean causation.
I’m still standing by demographics as a potential (although partial) contributor to the violence in the inner cities.
SiG · April 8, 2022 at 1:45 pm
Looks like another junk science study – and I have no idea why this is on Phys.org.
Yesterday, the NSSF daily email linked to an article on Reason Magazine’s website last Thursday.
https://reason.com/video/2022/03/31/do-studies-show-gun-control-works-no/
The story is “Do Studies Show Gun Control Works? No.” and the money quote is that the RAND institute did a review of 27,900 gun control studies and said only 123 tested their results adequately to not be just dismissed. Then they looked closer at the 123 and said, “…they still had serious statistical defects, such as a lack of controls, too many parameters or hypotheses for the data, undisclosed data, erroneous data, misspecified models, and other problems. ”
Put another way, there are 27,900 studies out of which there isn’t a single one that was rigorous enough to accomplish anything.
Danny · April 8, 2022 at 7:32 pm
Pretty much any gov’t funded research is a load of steaming horse manure. Research? Research this you fucking assholes.
joe · April 9, 2022 at 5:06 am
the tater brain in the wh had the cdc doing research on gun violence so they can use the power of the cdc to regulate firearms as a health hazard… these tards will do anything to push their agenda
Skeptic · April 9, 2022 at 7:40 am
“Urban” = black.
“Rural” = white.
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