This is one of those rare times where I think The Atlantic makes a good point

It was always obvious to me that military tactics, training, and weaponry had little place in civilian policing. The goal of the military is to overwhelm enemies, regardless of whether any particular individual on the other side “deserves” to be overwhelmed. It seems clear that police should not approach fellow citizens, rights-bearers, with the same attitude.

The article goes on:

So much of this turns out to be LARPing: half-trained, half-formed kids playing soldier in America’s streets and schools. Many of the thousands of SWAT-team members in this country don’t have the training and expertise to respond like they’re SEAL Team 6. It’s time to stop pretending that they do.

Read the entire article. It makes some great points. The money quote?

we have accepted a more and more militarized and aggressive police culture, with serious damage to basic constitutional liberties. What we got in return is 19 cops standing outside a classroom while children were slaughtered.

I couldn’t agree more.

Categories: Police State

9 Comments

Jonesy · June 18, 2022 at 7:30 am

Militarization of the police is definitely out of control. I don’t mind them necessarily having all the gear, it’s more the mindset and the tactics being used.

Noncompliance sends the threat response scale from 0-100 and equals death in far too many instances.

SWAT teams are being used far too much and for executing lesser and lesser warrants. A guy wanted for credit card fraud shouldn’t expect 12 guys with machine guns busting down his doors.

If red flag laws become prevalent, you can almost guarantee tactical teams will be used at an increasing rate. People will die, and it will continue to escalate

Toastrider · June 18, 2022 at 7:41 am

All I gotta say is: if they wanna play at being military, cool! Maybe we should start regulating them under the UCMJ.

J. Smith · June 18, 2022 at 8:36 am

I managed some 1033. Its bipartisan, its wrong and its here to stay. I did SCARS heavy testing for a service Special Operations unit, circa 2005-2006. SOCOM adopted 50,000 SCARS light and heavy platforms, these are full-auto, with mission profile bags, three barrels various lengths, some with grenade launchers. SOCOM got rid of them a few years later, went back to M-4s, 416’s M14’s, etc…Funny, in numerous DEA photos of seizures between 2015-2020 in Mexico many of these turned up. These were never released in the civilian market but as semi-auto versions 16&17. Not widely used around the world either, so had did they get there? Draw your own conclusions, the grenade launchers gave it away.

This oughta get me on someones list.

The 1033 program is managed by the Defense Logistics Agency. Much of the equipment is standard-issue gear including office supplies, furniture, firearms and other equipment. Local law enforcement agencies can acquire the equipment through a wide array of federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, Treasury and the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Between 4% and 7% of what is transferred is considered controlled property that cannot be distributed to the public.

Trump stepped it up releasing i believe like near 2 billion to police depts of 1003 equipment. The fake kenyan was no better. But under the fake kenyan DoJ also gave depts billions in training money to standardized police training nationwide. Some of that was reactive shooter training, wonder why they are like they are, here you go. Use of deadly force used to be simple, intent opportunity and capability, over the last 30 years that has gotten severely made gray, with various different means to get to UODF. this needs fixed, but it wont be. But, then when it is clear situation of justified UODF, that goes out the window if the perp is black. Cops havent figured out yet they are being put in the middle and being used by tptb. Wake up bubbas.

    Jonesy · June 18, 2022 at 10:00 am

    MRAPs went to a lot of local PDs after we pulled out of Iraq through DLA, SWAT teams scooped them up. Got them for free mostly, without knowing the maintenance costs required to keep them running.

      Toastrider · June 18, 2022 at 11:17 am

      That’s been one of the big problems from what I’ve heard. They get these cool toys, but lack the resources or skills to actually keep them running.

      J. Smith · June 18, 2022 at 4:34 pm

      Yep, in a way its a way to dump the stuff on depts, knowing they wont have life cycle maintenance and replacement bucks and parts. Its kinda funny. Could of gotten a deuce snd a half once for free, a wise old timer former army mechanic explained why I didnt want it to a much younger, not so wise me.

      These mraps and such for police depts are like larping, most of these guys didnt serve, Mraps and such give them little chubbys.

        EN2 SS · June 18, 2022 at 8:23 pm

        My dad bought 4 of them, cut the frame just in front of the suspension, cut the third member section out to narrow it down and used them as trailers to move houses/buildings. They would follow the truck through absolutely anything, overloaded to hell and gone, could not break them.

EN2 SS · June 18, 2022 at 11:15 am

19 pussies standing outside a classroom while children were slaughtered.

FIFY

Barnes Is Reality · June 19, 2022 at 10:16 am

That is so cute how the poleece act like they just love comrade citizen when they really only care about their pensions or the free gas and donuts.
Shun all minions of the Leviathan state for they are not your friends.
We aren’t all in this together and community uber alles horsesh1t is communism 101.

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