The left is using the shooting in New York and is going to come at us with every gun control move that they have. There is nothing that they love as much as pools of blood that they can joyously dance in while they call for more control that everyone knows will not work.

  • You could counter their arguments by pointing out that the US, despite having more guns in private hands than the rest of the world combined, still has fewer homicides than half of the nations in the world.
  • You could argue that, even in nations where guns are banned, suicide rates are much higher than the US. The US has a combined suicide/homicide rate of 16.6 per 100,000 while South Korea, where firearms are virtually illegal, has a rate of 29.8. Canada, where there is severe gun control and handguns are virtually illegal: 18.3 per 100,000.
  • You could argue that the US counts all deaths where one person kills another as homicides, while some countries like Australia only counts a death as a homicide if someone is arrested and charged for the killing. Unsolved murders don’t count. Murders where the killer is already dead don’t count. This skews the statistics.
  • You could also argue that population density has a larger correlation to homicide and suicide rates than does gun ownership.

At one point or another, we have all made each of these arguments in gun control debates. They are based upon logic and facts, and backed with scores of studies and mountains of statistical evidence.

And they are always ignored.

The left bases its arguments on emotion and catchphrases. The don’t care about science, don’t care about evidence, unless it is convenient to do so in support of their position. All other facts are ignored. Arguing something like this is a waste of time. I know, because I have wasted my time like this for decades.

As they say in War Games, the only winning move is not to play. So don’t.

I will not turn in my guns. Just in case you feel that confiscating them is the answer and you send the cops over to take them, there are two outcomes of that plan.

  1. You will lose a lot of cops. Eventually, the cops will stop taking the chance.
  2. You won’t get anywhere near all of the guns

So my answer to gun laws is this: No.

Your move.


NIdahoCatholic · May 15, 2022 at 11:27 am

If you eliminate a certain group from homicide stats, the US would have one of the lowest homicide rates in the world.

    Guy · May 15, 2022 at 12:06 pm

    Sounds like what the protagonist in this particular news story was aiming at. Didn’t quite get there unfortunately.

    I’m supposed to cry over some of theirs while they made excuses when ours are killed. Tell you what, we’ll keep the Hodge twins, Clarence Thomas and Denzel Washington, I’m not going to ask too many questions if the rest start disappearing.

    We like to say “not all minorities”, but our fairness will be cold comfort when south africa arrives here

    We’re not too far

      EN2 SS · May 15, 2022 at 12:50 pm

      I really think, when South Africa starts here, the deaths will be reversed.

Big Ruckus D · May 15, 2022 at 2:54 pm

There is no debate. That should have been obvious about 40 years ago, at least. The answer to every one of the left’s demands is “no, and fuck you for even trying”. As to guns specifically, if they want to try and take them, then that simply means it is time to start using them in earnest on anyone who tries to attempt the confiscation of same.

Loss of ones guns is now inarguably synonymous with loss of ones life, as that will be the very next thing the leftists take, once one is left without the very tool needed to defend it. That is all.

    BobF · May 15, 2022 at 4:46 pm

    Agree. No more explanation, discussion, debate, whatever. One side sticks their fingers in their ears, closes their eyes, and ignores any input. The other side then meekly gives a concession in the hope that it will end the attacks. Good grief, how much of that one way street is left?! NONE. End of the road. No more meaningless, other than giving away natural rights piece by piece, “concessions.” No more talking to the purposefully deceitful; they never intended to listen and consider in the first place.

Anonymous · May 16, 2022 at 10:59 am

You refuse to give up your guns, because doing so makes it much easier for the organized criminal gangs to victimize you. You should refuse to pay taxes for the same reason. Then organized crime will no longer pay, and the criminal gangs will go out of business.

People who believe liberty will never arrive are using the same proof strategy as: “Man will never walk on Mars, because man never has walked on Mars”. TOR, TAILS, Silk Road, and cryptocurrencies suggest a solution for liberty is near.

    Divemedic · May 16, 2022 at 11:04 am

    Cryptocurrency makes it EASIER for the government to track you, not harder.

      Anonymous · May 17, 2022 at 1:04 am

      Cryptocurrency makes it EASIER for the government to track you, not harder.

      I agree that Bitcoin does, but I don’t think it’s an unavoidable flaw of all flavors of cryptocurrency (CC). In addition to better privacy, a better CC requires a mint mark, so users can tell who is promising to exchange it for what; then the CC becomes a warehouse receipt which is easier to transport than barrels of oil. Because CC bits have no use beyond their use for the communication function of money, the biggest threat to the long-term value of Bitcoin is Bitcoin 2.0.

TRX · May 16, 2022 at 5:34 pm

> The US has a combined suicide/homicide rate of

Suicides are always lumped in with homicides when the antis are slinging numbers… but suicide isn’t even a crime in about half the states.

    Divemedic · May 16, 2022 at 6:36 pm

    The reason I included both suicide and homicides is the psychology of those who are nuts. In some countries, South Korea for example, they internalize their anger. That is why homicide rates are low in S Korea, yet they have the highest suicide rate in the world.
    In the US, we tend to be a balance of more than one culture, so our homicide rates are more balanced with suicide rates. Other countries externalize everything and have very low suicide and very high homicide rates.

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