Everyone who reads this blog knows that I don’t think that the collapse of Damar Hamlin had anything to do with the vax. However, if you want to see a great example of the collapse of a young athlete, look no further than the collapse of Old Dominion sophomore point guard Imo Essien. He collapsed about halfway through the first half a basketball game after having trouble catching his breath.
The team will be sending him to see a cardiologist before allowing him to return to play. Twenty year old collegiate athletes don’t typically collapse from idiopathic cardiac events. Granted, there is no evidence either way as to his vaccine status, but it would certainly be something to keep an eye on.
The pro vaccine folks are already calling it fake news because it isn’t like the collapse of Hamlin, but in my opinion the fact that it isn’t like the collapse of Hamlin is exactly WHY it needs to be looked at.
TRX · January 9, 2023 at 10:31 am
>Granted, there is no evidence either way as to his vaccine status
Other than being in college? If Old Dominion doesn’t mandate the vaxx for all students, they’re flouting Virginia school regulations.
Many colleges now demand proof of vaxx even for remote students who will never set foot on the campus.
Charles · January 9, 2023 at 11:39 am
Word is that Old Dominion has a universal mandate for all students, including athletes. Essien was vaxed.
THX 1138 · January 9, 2023 at 2:44 pm
Remember Len Bias? That was bad batch of cut rock related.
Still, isn’t it a bid odd with people in the full bloom of youth and peak physical condition just dropping.
Most of these sportsball leagues are mandatory experimental gene therapy.
Veteran OG rapper Ice Cube turned down $9 million because you had to take the depopulation shot to be in a movie.
Igor · January 9, 2023 at 2:52 pm
Remove all doubt – do a d-dimer test. Also do the test for myocarditis.
I *do* blame the vax, my friend.
(Have you seen the “died suddenly” video yet?)
Divemedic · January 9, 2023 at 4:28 pm
D dimer isn’t specific to the vax. There are other reasons for elevated d dimer.
Steve S6 · January 9, 2023 at 3:52 pm
Did your hospital get this one?
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Divemedic · January 9, 2023 at 4:28 pm
I wouldn’t know
Danny · January 9, 2023 at 7:00 pm
That right there is freaky. Considering it happened soon after the football player, that is.
Divemedic · January 9, 2023 at 7:55 pm
Considering that even before COVID, an average of 50 or so athletes dropped each year, it really isn’t that unusual. What makes it odd is that so many of them are doing so without an identifiable cause. That’s why I cautioned against making a big deal out of Hamlin’s issue.
Aesop · January 10, 2023 at 12:38 am
The vaxx correlation won’t be investigated in this nor any other case, because it swims against the current narrative of “safe and effective” for all varieties of Death Vaxx.
The vaxx should be the presumptive cause in all such cases until ruled out, not the other way around.
Yes, there have been a handful (<100/yr) of cases of previously unsuspected cardiac pathologies every year for years among young presumptively healthy athletes.
What there haven't been in any year, as you noted, are hundreds to thousands of them, as there have in the last 2 years.
So, what changed around late 2020 – early 2021…?
Divemedic · January 10, 2023 at 8:45 am
Exactly my point. If we want to make headway in this, we need to hammer on the ones that are idiopathic, and not harp on the ones with more obvious causes. Seizing on every one makes us look like crazy tin foil hat wearers.
Concentrate on the ones that are suspicious, and you will make headway.
Joe Blow · January 11, 2023 at 5:42 am
Haha, yes, here I agree with you.
That being said, these two incidences look lkke apples and oranges to me?
Basketball player is standing after the play, appears stressed, sits down quickly, but under his own power. Walked off court a few moments later.
Hilton came up from the hit looking fine (energetic even), wobbled, then fell like a sack of potatoes. Needed CPR and rode the meat wagon off the field. I don’t have to tell you, paramedic will not do CPR unless your heart stopped. He was dead!
I’ll buy the roundball player could have been commotion corgys or some other obscure medical situation. Hilton popped a clog and dropped dead on the field. Causative agent is the only question, which tells me you haven’t seen that Stew Peters movie with the embalmers yet…. cuz everyone who has seen that movie knows what killed Hilton Monday night.
Divemedic · January 11, 2023 at 10:51 am
You say that Hamlin “popped a clot” You are basing this upon what evidence? Because he was able to stand up after the hit? That isn’t how such things work.
Paramedics (and other medical people) do CPR because there is no pulse. It isn’t always accurate to say that it was due to a patient’s “heart stopping.”
There are actually a number of reasons why a patient will have no pulse that is NOT the result of the heart stopping.
In the case of a rhythm disturbance (such as ventricular fibrillation) the patient’s heart is still active, but isn’t producing enough output to produce a palpable pulse.
Since we KNOW that CPR was in progress, and we know that an AED was deployed, there are a couple of things that we can KNOW for sure about the Hamlin event.
The biggest is that his heart was in either ventricular fibrillation, or pulseless ventricular tachycardia.
The second thing we know to a reasonable degree is that it was NOT a clot, an electrolyte imbalance, toxic substances, or most of the other “H’s and T’s” simply because rhythm was restored so quickly and without further medication.
This points to SCD, which can be caused by a number of things, but probably nota thrombus.
That is where the evidence leads currently, and I have real doubts that we will see any evidence be released that contradicts that (things like PTT or pt INR at the time he arrived at the hospital) mostly because of HIPAA.
But what do I know? I only have more than 30 years’ experience and education, while you watched a movie once.
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