More details have come out in the Mayor of Orlando’s plan to act like the little Leftist tyrant that he is.
Because of a threat of lawsuits, Orlando has announced that anyone with a concealed weapons permit will be permitted to enter the so-called security zone that the city is establishing on Friday and Saturday nights. I am sure, however, that you will be closely watched to see if you and your armed, permitted ass enter any bars, where you will promptly be arrested for violating the terms of your permit.
You will also note that just in case anyone sues under Florida’s law, which allows a citizen to sue any government official that violates the state’s preemption law, they are using private, armed security guards to enforce the zone.
I do wonder just what the legalities are here. I mean, it is illegal to lie to cops. What authority do security guards have to tell you that you aren’t allowed to walk down a public street? How can the compel you to submit to a search? I wonder what other legal issues there are here. Can they use force to prevent you from walking down the street? Can you sue them for violating your civil rights, or does that only apply to the cops? What legalities are there?
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joe · August 7, 2022 at 8:56 am
is that a florida thing, you can’t lie to cops? thought that was only a fed thing…you can lie to cops all day in tx…it’s part of the game…no way in hell i would let a security guard touch me or search me…
Divemedic · August 7, 2022 at 9:24 am
Florida statute 837.05: Except as provided in paragraph (b) or subsection (2), a person who knowingly gives false information to a law enforcement officer concerning the alleged commission of any crime, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree…
A person who knowingly gives false information to a law enforcement officer concerning the alleged commission of a capital felony, commits a felony of the third degree
Divemedic · August 7, 2022 at 9:26 am
Texas has a similar law, found at:
37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEE.
(a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to
deceive, he knowingly makes a false statement that is material to a
criminal investigation and makes the statement to:
(1) a peace officer conducting the investigation; or
(2) any employee of a law enforcement agency that is
authorized by the agency to conduct the investigation and that the
actor knows is conducting the investigation.
(b) In this section, “law enforcement agency” has the
meaning assigned by Article 59.01, Code of Criminal Procedure.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.
joe · August 7, 2022 at 4:50 pm
that’s more toward making a false report…you can lie all day to them while they are conducting an “investigation”, during a traffic stop, if they question you about something…what will get you in trouble is making a false report…
Divemedic · August 7, 2022 at 7:39 pm
That isn’t how the Texas courts have interpreted that.
u · August 7, 2022 at 9:39 am
I live in Orlando, and this is yet one more reason you’ll never see my fat ass downtown after dark. Decades ago in a different world, my wife and I used to occasionally go downtown to have dinner out at a fancy restaurant or to take friends to go see something down there. It really was a different world then. Haven’t been down there for an evening in at least 10 years and seeing this, won’t plan on it.
Divemedic · August 7, 2022 at 10:38 am
Downtown Orlando was fun. I remember back in the early 2000’s:
The bars: 70s Cafe, Bar Orlando, Chillers, The Big Belly Brewery, Howl at the Moon, Rosie O’Grady’s. I remember going to Chillers for $1 drink night from 7-9, then going upstairs to Big Belly from 9-11 for $1 drafts. On Friday nights, Howl at the Moon was filled with Firefighters.
Then there were the restaurants: Orchid Garden, Cafe du France, Aussie Steakhouse, and others.
Then Universal opened City Walk, and the downtown area died. It’s nothing but crime and homeless bums begging on every corner now.
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