The purpose of the police is not supposed to be enforcing the law. The people themselves are pretty good, some would say too good, at protecting themselves and stopping crime, if left to their own devices. In fact, they are so good at stopping crime, that many people have been accused of crimes and punished, only for it to later be proven that the person punished wasn’t the culprit.
No, police are actually there to protect people who have been accused of crimes and protect those people to ensure that their rights to a fair and impartial trial are protected.
A convicted pedophile has set up camp directly next to a children’s school. He has signs out, offering free drugs. The police say that their hands are tied, and either can’t or won’t do anything about it. What happens when the police can’t or won’t do anything to protect children? Sooner or later, someone is going to take care of it themselves. It may be a parent of a molested child, or even a molested child or someone who feels like they themselves are a victim. At that point, the cops will fall all over themselves to find the culprit.
On the other hand, you see police and the legal system setting their sights on people who haven’t committed a crime. They are being used as political tools to destroy the opponents of those who would seek power.
This is a deadly combination. Once people feel like there is no justice to be had, they lose respect for the law. Anarchy can be the only result of this.
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Noway2 · October 23, 2023 at 6:30 am
Law has become completely divorced from the concept of right and wrong, the principles it tries to codify. What’s more is we now have numerous, “crimes against the state”, for which there is no victim, but for the violation of the edicts of a waste of life politician. I have no respect for or need of cops (mercenary thugs of the politicians) courts (who do you even think you are to sit in judgement of ME?), and whatnot. I have also reached the point that should I be on a jury (a subject in and of itself) I would not apply the crown’s law but my own moral code; and that might include things like refusing to convict someone for action against an agent of govt. You see, there is an old expression that if you live by the sword, you might die by the sword.
I would happily see the legal system destroyed so we can start anew. You are right, though, if it continues on its current course, we will hit the critical mass point of people losing respect for it.
Gerry · October 23, 2023 at 7:54 am
We have a legal system in this country, not a justice system.
I agree with your conclusion, when legal means are not taken street justice will follow.
There are no appeals to the street justice sentences.
Jonathan · October 24, 2023 at 9:31 am
Justice is happening in many places; the media is scared to report it since it puts their masters in a bad light.
In too many places, law enforcement sees itself as above and controlling the population; they need to see themselves as alongside the population, assisting it instead.
WDS · October 23, 2023 at 8:24 am
It would be absolutely terrible if a full sized SUV accidentally jumped the curb and….
Andrew · October 23, 2023 at 10:05 am
Oh, Kali.
It’d be wild if that person decided to consume all the “free drogues” they’re offering kids at once, totally spontaneously of course, without outside prompting.
“Hands are tied”, says the coppers.
Dude probably has a lawyer on speed dial with a free phone that tax cattle get to fund, is my assumption.
Slow Joe Crow · October 23, 2023 at 11:59 am
When the police are perceived as ineffective we get vigilantes like the San Francisco Committee of Vigilance of the 1850s. When the police are perceived as corrupt and supporting a single political party, then police are also on the target list. Neither is desirable
EN2 SS · October 24, 2023 at 8:16 pm
Neither is desirable, but both are very effective at ending BS.
Plan Accordingly · October 23, 2023 at 12:40 pm
Barry deleted the rule of law with the “historic” pen and phone.
The poleece are checked out for now but they will be back to crack down on who they are ordered to and it won’t be degenerates or purple haired groomers.
I won’t go into any details but you can use Anarcho-Tyranny for yourself and don’t get caught.
Dirty Dingus McGee · October 23, 2023 at 1:11 pm
Just like the olden days of yore, the “enforcer’s” are beholden to their paymaster. While John Q might assume that as a taxpayer that would be he, he is sadly mistaken. His name isn’t on the bottom of the paycheck, it’s some government hack. If said hack decides that all people wearing green shirts are in violation, well guess what. You there in the green shirt will be getting perp walked into your nearest detention/re-education facility.
The way it’s always been, the way it’ll always be.
Big Ruckus D · October 23, 2023 at 2:11 pm
It is obvious enough what will happen when the cops (and the law they are charged with “enforcing”) is perverted. It is also obvious that we will get a front row seat to witness that outcome, as the trajectory of societal trends has now made that an inevitability.
Once it begins to occur in frequency sufficient to make suppression of it’s happening impossible, a flood of retribution will spill forth. Lots of pissed off people who do not feel justice has been served, and will pursue their own idea of it, is what I expect to see.
TRX · October 23, 2023 at 3:39 pm
> Law has become completely divorced from the concept of right and wrong
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Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, “This is a court of law, not a court of justice.”
The “Judicial Branch” doesn’t *do* justice any more. Which is how you wind up with mobs and vigilantes.
Jester · October 23, 2023 at 7:54 pm
I tend to agree that most of policing seems to involve going after victemless crimes with ruthelessness but actual harmed victems are often on their own. I don’t specifically have an issue with selective policing if it’s uniformly applied. When the wife gets a speeding ticket for 35 in a 30 and I watch the same cops flash the bubbles to blow though red lights at night I get irritated. When I can have a fair or rarely good interaction with a cop and then 5 bad ones when I’ve done nothing wrong and in those cases tried to help someone I get mad.
I get that police are often dealing with someone having a bad day if not the worst day in their life. I get they get to deal with a whole lot of garbage human beings. I think some of them get hardened by it and loose perspective.
I get that sometimes they can’t do something and that’s well and good but there’s a lot of times they either are ignorant of a law (who would not be with how many we have now) or make things up or selecively enforce things because they themselves are having a bad day.
I am no longer sure how many people do not break laws because of the punishment system and worry about the police catching them. I half wonder if the old saying of a padlock on a door keeps an honest person honest but won’t stop someone dedicated to break in is not the truth.
I wish there was some form of clear answers too, as it seems to roll from department to department in different ways. I also agree with the statement that there’s a lot of police officers that were either bullies growing up and continue as adults or they themselves were bullied and now are in a position of authority and will take full advantage of it and there’s far too many cops that just go along and get along. I think it is a significant amount of bad actors out there and it might be about the same as the neutrals and good ones which is why the bad actors are not turned out very often, there’s just too many of them.
And I can also see it when they bring in people that should be punished getting released by DAs that don’t give a fuck other than their own agenda. Do all that paperwork, put yourself at risk and you see the perp walk out of the jail cell before your even done with all the paperwork associated with it.
No, more and more of what I see tells me that we really, really are on our own. You might be able to make friends with a neighborhood cop or a rare one here or there but generally I just avoid them and the SIL is one. She lays it straight at least as to what goes on. My brother left two different departments because of the BS and well he has some honor about him and just wants to put in work. No, we’re on our own and I think there’s just the thinnest of veils right now from very serious underground justice happening. And with that I think department to deparment of police will determine if anything happens. One department may just turn a blind eye knowing people are taking care of what they can’t. Others will say they are going to be out of a job if they don’t catch the people doing justice
vicious Sid · October 24, 2023 at 8:00 am
I’m 73, live in the south and distinctly remember “self-help” being a supplement to law enforcement in keeping order in communities. Sheriffs deputies were sparse but people understood that transgressions would be addressed by peaceful residents if necessary, the punishment being far worse than that handed out by the legal system.
Elrod · October 24, 2023 at 9:57 am
I see a future in, very quietly and surreptitiously, operating an “independent contracting business” along the lines of “neigborhood reconciliation.” Back in the day TPTB were aware of organized crime dealing with its own issues, as long as is didn’t spill over into gen pop any pursuit was both limited and cursory.
A map of local pig farms and very good relationships with their owners could be a handy thing. So could well muffled backhoes and operatives with excellent post sunset eyesight and good shovel skills.
Max Wiley · October 25, 2023 at 11:46 am
Working as intended, meaning this is a feature, not a bug, in a police state. We just don’t want to face it.
On many of these issues I have asked myself if it’s getting worse or if I am just noticing more. The only sad conclusion is: some of both.
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