In a post last week I made a flippant comment about people shooting masks onto people’s faces, where I said that this was a good way to get shot. TCK pointed out that such a gun was unlikely to be treated as a threat that would permit a lethal response, and of course he is correct. That got me to thinking about what is going on in this country, where the left seems to be walking the line and using force with impunity. This made me realize how badly we are currently losing in the revolution they have started.

Let’s begin with “mostly peaceful protest,” the term they are using to describe open warfare.

Mostly peaceful means what, exactly? The does that mean most of the people present didn’t engage in violence? We know that the US military in Iraq had fewer than a quarter of them in combat. Does that mean it was a mostly peaceful war?

What exactly is violence? If I put a gun to your head and demand your money and you hand it over without me having to shoot you, was that a peaceful robbery?

So is a crowd of  150 communist insurgents carrying rifles while screaming threats at unarmed motorists a peaceful protest? Or would you consider the threat of violence without actually carrying it out to be peaceful?

The communist mobs are getting very good at walking the line between legal technicalities and actual crimes. They have their own JAG corps. They have funds established for bailing out those who are arrested.

I don’t even know if it is illegal to shine a high powered laser into someone’s eyes, as long as the laser isn’t designed to indicate or mark an object, the target isn’t operating a vehicle. In Florida, a laser is not a weapon. A weapon is defined as:

any dirk, knife, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon except a firearm or a common pocketknife, plastic knife, or blunt-bladed table knife.

It appears that the best you can do is try to get them for simple battery, but that requires the prosecutor to prove that the person with the laser intended to injure, and not merely annoy. 

784.03 Battery; felony battery.—
(1)(a) The offense of battery occurs when a person:
1. Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or
2. Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.
(b) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person who commits battery commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

Even then, it is only a misdemeanor for a first offense. Since it may not even be a crime, defending yourself from this assault is problematic and, even if you only use nonlethal means such a pepper spray, there is a very good chance you will be in more trouble than your attacker. At the very least, you will lay out serious money for your defense attorney.
Likewise for morons yelling in your ears with a megaphone. Likely to cause hearing damage, but there isn’t really anything you can do about it. 
The left appears to be walking right up to the legal line and carefully not crossing it. They are counting on the fact that the right is largely law abiding as their primary insurance against getting their ass kicked. They then claim that this is “nonviolence.” For example, when they cruise through your neighborhood at 2 in the a.m. screaming and chanting in a stated attempt to wake you up and inconvenience you. 
They snatch signs from children and intimidate them, but don’t actually cross the line and strike them. 
They are proving that the letter of the law has loopholes that allow people to use force and violence, or at least the threat of them, to control and intimidate others.

The question is, what do we do about it?

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SiGraybeard · August 23, 2020 at 8:32 pm

They walk the lines because they've been trained. After George Soros successfully funded the Secretaries of State Project
they started funding State Prosecutors.

Does anyone think it's a coincidence the Oregon prosecutor isn't charging anyone in the riots? They're bought and paid for.

It's planned and funded top to bottom.

They screw up and go over the line, from time to time, but it has been said since this started that they're trying to get the police or someone to over react. They think if they recreate the Kent State picture of the innocent young girl crying over her friend the country will leap behind them and agree to tear down everything.

I think they've overdone it, and if someone gets shot, 80% of America is going to say, "what took you so f**king long?"

Miguel GFZ · August 24, 2020 at 12:28 am

"They snatch signs from children and intimidate them, but don't actually cross the line and strike them. "

Unfortunately for her, she did touch the kid

Divemedic · August 24, 2020 at 3:15 am

"She was arraigned and released on her own recognizance. "

I am guessing that the charges will be dropped.

Don Curton · August 24, 2020 at 5:11 pm

At the end of all the legal jargon, the real defining line is "would a reasonable person, in your position, feel that their life was in jeopardy?". It'd cost $20k or more to get that far into a jury trial, which is $20k i don't have laying around. But that's the final standard.

That said, if you initiate violence you cannot plead self-defense. You punch someone and they come back with a baseball bat, shooting them won't look good to a jury.

That's what I remember from my CCL class several years back. In Texas.

Don Curton · August 24, 2020 at 5:16 pm

Also remember that the $20k is out of your own pocket, and win or lose that money is gone.

The prosecutor, otoh, is spending tax money and won't worry about spending $20k, $50k or even $100k of the taxpayer's money because it doesn't come out of his pocket. Win or lose, he's not the one going to jail or the poor house.

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