One of the most frequent criticisms that I have heard from the right about Charlie Kirk is that he was too moderate, he was Milquetoast, all he wanted to do is talk, etc. I have a news bulletin for people who say that-
The struggle between the US and the Commies of the left isn’t going to be won by guns.
The left’s strength is young voters. For decades, the left has gotten young people on board with the message that the older folks are out of touch. The reason that young people are poor, the left tells them, is that those old farts over there are cheating the system and keeping you down.
It just isn’t about violence. It’s going to be won by convincing the people of this nation that the left is nuts. That their ideas are unworkable. You don’t change people’s minds by shooting at others. You can’t shoot enough people to change the minds of an entire nation. On paper, Kamala Harris won more than 75 million votes. Even if half of those votes were fake, there are 37 million people in the left’s camp. It isn’t practical to shoot and kill 10% of the nation.
Those of you who think that a Civil War is just going to be you running around engaging in some fantasy where you shoot people in your spare time and simply go back to work on Monday while leaving Saturday evenings free to take the wife to dinner and play with the kids is a fantasy.
What Mr. Kirk did was connect with college students in a way that none of the people who read this blog can: He spawned a movement that got young adults involved in the conservative movement, because he was one of them. He started Turning Point USA when he was 18 years old. He was, in large part, the reason why Trump won the last election. Let me illustrate:
Read that chart- There was a 16 point shift to the right in young men, and a 5 point shift in young women. What Mr Kirk was doing was beating the left where it hurt them the most- their most powerful demographic: young, college educated whites.
He did it without violence, but with reason, debate, and discussion. His mantra was “Let’s talk, let’s compare ideas,” and he was damned effective. He won over hundreds of thousands of people through merely showing them that the right weren’t fascists that wanted to kill brown people. Instead, showed these young adults that those on the right were not ignorant moron racists- he won them over with reason and debate.
The left murdered him for it.
If you think that you will be more effective than Mr. Kirk was, tell me how you and your rifle are going to change 100,000 people’s opinion. Tell me what the nation will look like if you “win.” Do you think that the US will be better after this civil war than before it? Do you think that those who are left of the 70 million or more Democrats are going to just love you and your ideas because you shot a lot of people? Or do you really think that you are going to walk off into the sunset without knowing loss at the end of what will assuredly be a long a bloody affair?
We need the Charlie Kirks of the world. They are the ones who are the path to winning over in the land of ideas. The biggest problem isn’t that he isn’t violent- it’s that the left is.
Once dialog breaks down, violence is guaranteed. With the killing of Charlie Kirk, the left has signaled that they can’t be reasoned with. That’s the reason why this blog may have to go if a bunch of people on my watch list are killed- it signals that talking and dialog are a thing of the past.
That’s a scary, dangerous thing.
I am sure that there are readers who are reading this and thinking that I am being a pussy. There are a couple I can think of right now. To those people, if you REALLY believe that, why aren’t you out there stacking bodies instead of trying to demand that others do it for you? Are you a Fed that is trying to goad people into being the FBI’s next patsy? Or are you a fool that thinks you are going to go all John Rambo and kill everyone who displeases you?
EDITED TO ADD
If we have entered a phase where people who talk are being silenced through assassination, the time for talk is over. The blog has to go, and it will be time for other tactics. If people aren’t having discussions, they are fighting. That was the message that Charlie Kirk was spreading.
The left, as I have pointed out more than a few times on this blog, sees speech with which they disagree as being violent and has also said that whatever it is that they disagree with is “hate speech” that deserves no Constitutional protection. At first, it was petitions, then canceling, then it was “follow people and outshout them with megaphones,” then it was riots, now it is just blatant assassination. The left has been escalating the violence for over a decade.
Once we get to the point where those who speak are murdered, then there is no longer any point to speaking.
11 Comments
Joe Blow · September 12, 2025 at 7:48 am
I’m not advocating for any side, but I do find myself in agreement with the people that suggest the Left has just decided they’re done talking.
I think the Kirk shooting will prove to be a wakeup call for many normies. They were in disbelief over the Ukiegirl getting slashed, wrote it off as just another feral nigger. This one though… hit different. No pun intended. In part b/c he was completely non-violent, non-confrontational, but at the same time, willing to discuss any and all topics. The epitome of what civilized discourse is supposed to be, and he engaged the shock-troops right in their fortresses, utterly fearless.
We’ll see how the Feds and media spin it, but you can tell by the reactions from people online, this was a wakeup for many of them.
I think the extremists will see it as a ‘leash coming off’ moment. The normies will shrug and nod, just like the leftists do about Kirk – had it coming, FAFO.
TINVOWOOT!
This will also be a catalyst for HOP – Human Osmotic Pressure (thank you for that term Mr. Michael Yon!) Anyone close to red is going to move out of ubran/suburban areas into suburban/rural areas. Cookie-cutter McMansion neighborhoods 20-minutes from downtown will soon be deathtrap hellholes with whites a visible minority. Red states will start passing laws Leftists find inconvenient, so they’ll all move the other direction. The continued balkanization of our society is guaranteed. Everything will spiral out of control further in the direction its already going. The pendulum always swings further than people expect. The leftists got it pretty far to the left this time, further than most people thought they would. I’m willing to wager McCarthyism will be considered ‘quaint’ in the near future.
Divemedic · September 12, 2025 at 9:24 am
I think that the left signaled the end a long time ago. They did it when they claimed to want “reasoned discourse” on gun control before blocking comments, they did it when government officials worked with Social Media to deplatform people on the right, they did it when they called us deplorables and advocated for Trump supporters to be placed in camps.
They have NEVER wanted anyone to speak unless it was in favor of their own policies. The old quote “They don’t want to hear your opinion, what they really want is to hear their own opinion coming out of your mouth,” certainly has more than a nugget of truth.
McChuck · September 12, 2025 at 8:40 am
“there are 37 million people in the left’s camp. It isn’t practical to shoot and kill 10% of the nation.”
Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Castro disagree.
Divemedic · September 12, 2025 at 8:44 am
So you and your rifle better get to work. Or you can admit that those dictators didn’t do it themselves, they convinced others to do it- which merely proves MY point, that pulling others to your side is more effective than shooting.
Aesop · September 13, 2025 at 10:56 am
That still requires people to start shooting.
QED
SmileyFtW · September 12, 2025 at 9:08 am
On point DM, on point.
“Let’s talk” was Charlie Kirk’s mantra. When the talking stops violence is what is left. The left is losing the hearts and minds (developed through indoctrination only) and losing their collective shit because they see the indoctrination is losing the battle (as it should). They lash out in frustration.
I am hoping there is someone that can take up the reins of TP USA and keep the dialog open. What I fear is that there is no one with the depth of knowledge and quickness of wit that Charlie had.
MARK C SCHOENING · September 12, 2025 at 9:09 am
Excellent take.
Those who advocate for violence in return, are literally shooting themselves in the foot.
Conservatives need not lie in the gutter, we need to stand up with honor and patriotism.
Democrat violence on display, words of derision and anger, threats and insults now are the Left’s mantra. Let them continue to demonstrate their insanity. America is waking up and watching with disgust.
SoCoRuss · September 12, 2025 at 11:01 am
DM, I see your point and trying to talk sense is a good goal and preferred. Kirk’s way of debating was a great idea and did work on some that still are sane and willing to think. But for a lot of the left that are the true believers of the various levels of communist hell, talking wont work unfortunately.
Divemedic · September 12, 2025 at 2:33 pm
I agree, but there are still more out there who will listen, and every time we debate the insane ones, they are driving more of their supporters away from their camp and into ours. The only reason why the left still has power is the willing MSM painting US as the crazy ones.
Jonesy · September 13, 2025 at 9:16 am
One of the best posts on this blog and on this topic in general since the shooting.
“The biggest problem isn’t that he isn’t violent- it’s that the left is.”
Charlie’s approach was the correct one, and if continued, will shine a light on the left and further expose their insanity. We need to continue to win hearts and minds. Winning arguments with good ideas is far superior to winning them with bullets.
If the left continues to escalate violence, so be it, we need to be ready. I won’t willingly start any trouble, but if it comes looking for me, I certainly won’t run.
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