The US Attorney’s office has just filed a brief stating that suppressors aren’t arms and are therefore not protected by the Second Amendment.
This is twisting the definitions, since 26 USC 5845 defines a firearm thusly:
The term “firearm” means (1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length; (3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length; (5) any other weapon, as defined in subsection (e); (6) a machinegun; (7) any silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code); and (8) a destructive device.
13 Comments
Gerry · March 18, 2025 at 10:37 am
If that is true, why are they controlled by the ATF?
Aesop · March 18, 2025 at 4:18 pm
Exactly so.
If they aren’t arms, the BATFE has no jurisdiction, and all federal suppressor rules and regs are now moot.
They’re now nothing more nor less than auto parts, and not subject to any federal regulation whatsoever, nor at any other level of state or local. If they’re not firearms, they’re not dangerous devices, and no law is reasonable, since they’re not arms, and cannot hurt anyone.
Another lawyer whose shoe size is larger than his IQ has entered the chat, apparently.
Hoist on their own petard. Or retard. Same difference.
And that USAtty should be fired NLT than close of business today, and sent packing forthwith.
Grimpy51 · March 18, 2025 at 10:53 am
Part of me says – ANY lawyer who files specifically against what the Constitution says should be immediately and forever disbarred.
I just don’t know the potential law of unintended consequences…..
SoCoRuss · March 18, 2025 at 11:08 am
But DM, you don’t understand. Judges and Lawyers have now assumed complete authority over the FUSA, to protect Democracy of course. And once they finish wiping their asses with that pesky paper document enough to wipe out any readable words, they will start us on the path to Utopia once and for all.
The truth is no one in power cares. After all the truly bullshit decisions coming out of courts, have ANY of these fuckers been held accountable or impeached or removed, NOPE. Has any politician or anyone done ANYTHING to stop this shit permanently, NO. It just goes on and happens again and again and again.
Its the Nazi method of truth still being used by .GOV’s, If you repeat something enough times people believe it and it defacto BECOMES the truth….
The simple fact that all these politicians that the right just MUST vote for evry year have done nothing to stop it, what does that tell you ? The politicians wont do anything BECAUSE they know the right is basically a bunch of law abiding at all costs eunuchs that wont storm the .GOV buildings or their homes and fucking demand their rights be honored or these fuckers get a rope party like the left does at every turn.
The people on the right or really anyone who believes they have any human rights given by god not by .GOV MUST understand that unless the pols FEAR you they wont do shit. So make them fucking FEAR you or submit and lay down on your back and spread your legs for the next daily fucking…..
Don in Oregon · March 18, 2025 at 11:37 am
How about, suppressors aren’t arms and therefore CANNOT BE REGULATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ?
Divemedic · March 18, 2025 at 12:19 pm
Is there anything that the Federal Government doesn’t regulate?
Veeshir · March 18, 2025 at 7:03 pm
Is there anything that the Federal Government doesn’t regulate?
The federal gov’t.
Steve S6 · March 18, 2025 at 11:54 am
So if they aren’t arms and clearly not explosives then they shouldn’t be regulated by the ATF.
Feral Underclass · March 18, 2025 at 1:18 pm
So if they shouldn’t be regulated by ATF then any old congress can outlaw them completely because reasons. See where this is going?
Divemedic · March 18, 2025 at 2:02 pm
Which is why I maintain that my own government is a larger and more immediate threat to my life, liberty, and property than is any other nation: Russian, Chinese, or anyone else.
Aesop · March 18, 2025 at 4:21 pm
And also why trying to dispute with them as reasoning humans is like playing chess with a seagull.
They squeal and squawk, knock all the pieces over, shit on everything, then fly away, and think they won.
oldvet50 · March 18, 2025 at 2:35 pm
Using that logic, ammunition, also, is not a firearm. It puts the ‘fire’ in firearm, but only ‘arms’ are protected, not FIREarms. Twisted liberal logic will somehow try to get there to take away our right to self defense.
Steady Steve · March 18, 2025 at 6:35 pm
Any judge, or politician can be removed at any time. But these are private, personal decisions. We are all Luigi now.