Ha ha ha … artificial intelligence sez “respect my authoritay”
Michael
· August 16, 2025 at 4:50 pm
I suspect in the Techo Tyranny that Serfs will be useful. Jobs too dangerous for expensive robots to do I suspect.
Without the programming morals of The Three Laws of Robotics, created by Isaac Asimov, designed to ensure that robots operate safely and ethically in relation to humans.
The Three Laws
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
AI is going to be “interesting” as in Chinese CURSE (Yes, I know there isn’t a direct Chinese equivalent but plenty near enough) and perhaps battery powered Sawzall’s might become tools of liberation.
it's just Boris
· August 16, 2025 at 5:24 pm
My observations, based on my colleagues’ use of AI in a research lab, suggest that AI can help an okay researcher write better papers (in a grammar-and-formatting sense) and be a better researcher; it will not make a bad researcher a good one. I suspect the same is true of coding. I’ve seen ChatGPT, specifically the version the lab licenses, get too many things wrong in terms of the actual science-y side (e.g. improper unit conversion, integrals not computed properly, etc.) to believe it can be trusted with the details.
That said … for anyone who “learned to code” to try to get a high-paying job for a minimum of effort, well … there would have been problems with that from the start, AI is just moving them forward in time.
mike fink
· August 17, 2025 at 6:55 am
The good times with American High tech computer jobs ended abruptly in the post Y2K crash sometime around late summer 2000. Something like 15 to 25% of the Americans working that industry were unemployed for years thereafter as most clung to the fantasy that there would be a comeback and they would be in demand again. It was painfully obvious to those of us who remained employed that no such comeback would occur, as least on the jobs side of it. The tech industry captains were all importing Indians to do the code writing and they also discovered that shipping the jobs overseas was even cheaper. I knew one guy, a fantastic employee by any measure, who was forced to work the overnight shift for 6 months and train his replacement in Red China over the telephone. There was no suggestion that the Chinaman should be the one who was up all night.
The false “learn to code” advise actually became a thing in this era. There had been a Fed program to shut down most North Atlantic Cod fishing in the great ports of Gloucester and New Bedford by overregulating and buying out the fishing boats themselves. Generational fishermen with a family history going back to the 1600’s in some cases were cheerfully advised on government flyers to go back to school for computer skills so they could change careers. The obvious defect in this so called advise was that there was still a glut of 10’s of thousands of people possessing excellent high tech resumes who had been out of work since Y2k. A former fishing boat crewman was not going to beat out that kind of competition with some community college courses under his belt.
Chutes Magoo
· August 16, 2025 at 9:28 pm
They got ‘Blockbustered’!
Skyler the Weird
· August 17, 2025 at 7:20 am
Oh noes now Ahmed and Shruthi and Ravi Singh will be displacing illegal aliens at Chipotle. They surely won’t send their asses back to the subcontinent.
This is why I told my son he needed to learn networking and the hardware side of things as well. I’ll never forget when he borrowed my crimp tool to fix some cat6 jumpers at work. His coworker said “How do you know how to do that?”
His old man, that’s how. I’ve had the same thing happen to me.
Learn the industry, not just one piece.
AI may work wonders. But it can’t plug itself in.
BTW there are tons of jobs. Just not $165k to write code, Even these days, that’s guru pay.
My sister worked as a paralegal and had to hire some staff. Her boss was demeaning her job, saying a monkey could do it. She said “Oh yeah? Who’s going to train the monkeys?”
AI isn’t a thneed.
SoCoRuss
· August 17, 2025 at 10:28 am
And yet the high schools and colleges still are pushing the same degrees with job prospects in the shitter.
To me colleges and high schools should be required to state what the employment rate is for their graduates in every degree program and clearly give that to students along with their projected job prospects and salaries for a few years out. Make these people responsible for the crap degrees they are pushing on kids with no real critical thinking skills.
I’ve got 3 friends with kids who went into apprenticeships in various trades and are making real good money while they talk about their friends with various college degrees working at Chipotle to pay their debts. One kid says he makes sure to tip one friend there good just to put a stick in the eye after the friend talking shit about him going into commercial HVAC systems and says how he knows its rough in the job market.
Jim
· August 17, 2025 at 5:25 pm
Yes. ChatGPT represents a dumbing down. It allows people with bad reading comprehension and grammar to sound like scholars. It’s easily identified. It’s a tool of the lazy.
Divemedic
· August 17, 2025 at 5:37 pm
Depends. There are people out there getting college degrees using papers written by Chat AI. As long as you give the paper a once over to make sure it sounds human, most AI detection tools are useless.
I don’t see using AI to write a paper as any more of a cheat than using a word processor. Microsoft word checks spelling and grammar, and there are also tools like Grammarly that make sure your grammar and usage sound scholarly. I just don’t see the issue.
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Honk Honk · August 16, 2025 at 3:04 pm
Manuel Labors will have to learn as well?
Danny · August 16, 2025 at 4:41 pm
Ha ha ha … artificial intelligence sez “respect my authoritay”
Michael · August 16, 2025 at 4:50 pm
I suspect in the Techo Tyranny that Serfs will be useful. Jobs too dangerous for expensive robots to do I suspect.
Without the programming morals of The Three Laws of Robotics, created by Isaac Asimov, designed to ensure that robots operate safely and ethically in relation to humans.
The Three Laws
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
AI is going to be “interesting” as in Chinese CURSE (Yes, I know there isn’t a direct Chinese equivalent but plenty near enough) and perhaps battery powered Sawzall’s might become tools of liberation.
it's just Boris · August 16, 2025 at 5:24 pm
My observations, based on my colleagues’ use of AI in a research lab, suggest that AI can help an okay researcher write better papers (in a grammar-and-formatting sense) and be a better researcher; it will not make a bad researcher a good one. I suspect the same is true of coding. I’ve seen ChatGPT, specifically the version the lab licenses, get too many things wrong in terms of the actual science-y side (e.g. improper unit conversion, integrals not computed properly, etc.) to believe it can be trusted with the details.
That said … for anyone who “learned to code” to try to get a high-paying job for a minimum of effort, well … there would have been problems with that from the start, AI is just moving them forward in time.
mike fink · August 17, 2025 at 6:55 am
The good times with American High tech computer jobs ended abruptly in the post Y2K crash sometime around late summer 2000. Something like 15 to 25% of the Americans working that industry were unemployed for years thereafter as most clung to the fantasy that there would be a comeback and they would be in demand again. It was painfully obvious to those of us who remained employed that no such comeback would occur, as least on the jobs side of it. The tech industry captains were all importing Indians to do the code writing and they also discovered that shipping the jobs overseas was even cheaper. I knew one guy, a fantastic employee by any measure, who was forced to work the overnight shift for 6 months and train his replacement in Red China over the telephone. There was no suggestion that the Chinaman should be the one who was up all night.
The false “learn to code” advise actually became a thing in this era. There had been a Fed program to shut down most North Atlantic Cod fishing in the great ports of Gloucester and New Bedford by overregulating and buying out the fishing boats themselves. Generational fishermen with a family history going back to the 1600’s in some cases were cheerfully advised on government flyers to go back to school for computer skills so they could change careers. The obvious defect in this so called advise was that there was still a glut of 10’s of thousands of people possessing excellent high tech resumes who had been out of work since Y2k. A former fishing boat crewman was not going to beat out that kind of competition with some community college courses under his belt.
Chutes Magoo · August 16, 2025 at 9:28 pm
They got ‘Blockbustered’!
Skyler the Weird · August 17, 2025 at 7:20 am
Oh noes now Ahmed and Shruthi and Ravi Singh will be displacing illegal aliens at Chipotle. They surely won’t send their asses back to the subcontinent.
Himself · August 17, 2025 at 9:15 am
This is why I told my son he needed to learn networking and the hardware side of things as well. I’ll never forget when he borrowed my crimp tool to fix some cat6 jumpers at work. His coworker said “How do you know how to do that?”
His old man, that’s how. I’ve had the same thing happen to me.
Learn the industry, not just one piece.
AI may work wonders. But it can’t plug itself in.
BTW there are tons of jobs. Just not $165k to write code, Even these days, that’s guru pay.
My sister worked as a paralegal and had to hire some staff. Her boss was demeaning her job, saying a monkey could do it. She said “Oh yeah? Who’s going to train the monkeys?”
AI isn’t a thneed.
SoCoRuss · August 17, 2025 at 10:28 am
And yet the high schools and colleges still are pushing the same degrees with job prospects in the shitter.
To me colleges and high schools should be required to state what the employment rate is for their graduates in every degree program and clearly give that to students along with their projected job prospects and salaries for a few years out. Make these people responsible for the crap degrees they are pushing on kids with no real critical thinking skills.
I’ve got 3 friends with kids who went into apprenticeships in various trades and are making real good money while they talk about their friends with various college degrees working at Chipotle to pay their debts. One kid says he makes sure to tip one friend there good just to put a stick in the eye after the friend talking shit about him going into commercial HVAC systems and says how he knows its rough in the job market.
Jim · August 17, 2025 at 5:25 pm
Yes. ChatGPT represents a dumbing down. It allows people with bad reading comprehension and grammar to sound like scholars. It’s easily identified. It’s a tool of the lazy.
Divemedic · August 17, 2025 at 5:37 pm
Depends. There are people out there getting college degrees using papers written by Chat AI. As long as you give the paper a once over to make sure it sounds human, most AI detection tools are useless.
I don’t see using AI to write a paper as any more of a cheat than using a word processor. Microsoft word checks spelling and grammar, and there are also tools like Grammarly that make sure your grammar and usage sound scholarly. I just don’t see the issue.
Aesop · August 20, 2025 at 12:24 pm
Ever day’s distance from dropping computer science as a major ages that decision like fine wine.
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