Secretary of State Blinken announced the US policy that the nation will not and does not support Taiwan independence. This nation has no- and I mean zero- credibility with other nations. We are not respected by our adversaries, nor are we trusted by our allies.

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Big Ruckus D · June 20, 2023 at 10:45 am

And just as with the now apparent adjustments to the narrative concerning kokaine in the ukraine to lower expectations, this sets the stage for the US to ignore all it’s previous bluster and bullshit about defending Taiwan against a mainland invasion. I have long maintained the US wouldn’t defend Taiwan when the time came, mostly because it couldn’t.

Looks like my already long streak of unpopular and contrary opinions being right about shit can chalk up another win.

Papa · June 20, 2023 at 12:12 pm

If the US does not support the independence of Taiwan, why does the US supply arms to Taiwan?

    EN2 SS · June 20, 2023 at 1:39 pm

    I’ll type slow, M.O.N.E.Y. for the military/industrial/political class.

    Big Ruckus D · June 20, 2023 at 2:26 pm

    Money, that’s why. Gotta keep the MIC (and the whores who feed it) rolling in the filthy lucre. As to the FUSA’s purported long running promise to defend Taiwan against a mainland incursion, that was worth exactly jack and shit, which is effectively shown by this announcement. This is a dying empire, and so many promises once made when it still had the juice to effect at least the impression it was actually capable of enforcement, can – and will be – dispensed with openly, now that the competence and money have run out.

    The attitude that the criminal scum who run this joint are taking is “fuck y’all, we got ours”. This is just another such instance of them doing so. Let us hope their contemptuous and condescending arrogance finally inculcates a backlash that will bring proper consequences down on their asses.

    While not directly related to FUSA’s antagonism of China via Taiwan, If I were Putin (since Russia has an record in this regard, so they can provably get the job done) I’d be arranging a lot of honey pots right now to see that certain key figures are permanently neutralized before they can commit any large scale irrecoverable fuckups. That might also create enough FUD amongst the criminal ruling class here to have them running scared, in turn causing them to re-evaluate their plans. I really wish he would do exactly that, and quickly, as the time remaining to avoid a nuclear exchange is getting uncomfortably short.

    I see China as a side issue for now, since the fake and ghey empire is still actively pursuing (though not well, obviously) a goal of trying to fuck Russia. Therefore it is logical that Russia should be the one to settle the matter of an existential threat to it’s very existence, considering they have demonstrated the resources to do such things sneakily and effectively. Further, China may not need to do diddly squat defensively, as the present rate of decay in FUSA’s competence and finances may render it incapable of doing much to China anyway (aside from the extant verbal and diplomatic antagonism) while it is already mired in the neocon contrived morass of Ukraine.

    exile1981 · June 20, 2023 at 3:51 pm

    The US supplied arms because all the companies dependent on their microchips demanded me defend the supply. While it makes good sense in that we dont want to loose access to a critical resource; a better idea would have been to build the factories here.

    Now the sudden change in policy is because the big guy was offered more cash from china to change it.

    MauiSharkMan · June 20, 2023 at 8:00 pm

    Because the industrial-military complex pays big bucks to the political class.

Mountain Rat · June 20, 2023 at 12:35 pm

This is between Taiwan and China. Not our place to decide this issue. We should tend to our own affairs and quit telling everyone else what to do.

I am a 6yr Army veteran and I am sick of our country being the biggest bully around. We should mind our own damn business.

    Divemedic · June 20, 2023 at 4:13 pm

    Except that we gave our word. The rest of the world is watching. I agree that we should stay out of it, but once your word is given, it should be your bond. Otherwise, no one will sign treaties with us.

      Big Ruckus D · June 20, 2023 at 4:53 pm

      And the world is now rapidly gaining recognition of the fact that the word of the USGOV is worth less than a used rubber discarded in the gutter after a quickie with a $5 street whore. Which should’ve been widely apparent at least a couple of decades ago, but humans, collectively, are slow learners.

      That’s the entire point of my harping on the collapse of empire. What once was, is no longer. Expectations will have to be adjusted accordingly, and a lot of places and people are likely to get pissed off about that, with as yet unknowable downline consequences. Though we can certainly speculate on what those will be.

      But it will happen, because there are no serious or capable people running this shit show anymore, not do I see any on the horizon who are even partially possessed of the fortitude needed to start fixing shit. Even if there were, we are flat busted at $32 trillion in the hole just in budget deficits, to say nothing of the other quadrillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities and other scam created debts due from here until judgement day.

      MauiSharkMan · June 20, 2023 at 8:02 pm

      And you see what AmericaŹ»s word is worth now.

Vitaeus · June 20, 2023 at 2:58 pm

Guys, this has been the policy about Taiwan for decades. Nothing new was said, hell you can find similar statements in every administration since….JFK??

Aesop · June 21, 2023 at 4:26 am

“South Korea/South Vietnam/Kuwait is outside our spheres of interest or influence.”

How’d those work out in the long run?

It’s almost like the U.S. dotGov is disappointed that they couldn’t get a nuclear war started over Ukraine, and are now trying to instigate one over Taiwan.

If Taiwan doesn’t have a secret nuclear weapons program and a missile delivery system, they should start one in earnest five minutes ago.

The technology is so 1945, it shouldn’t take them more than a week or two.

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