A lefty just discovered history. Northerners are always accusing those of us in the South of attempting to relive the Civil War. Read this:
Expelling members of Congress, or of SCOTUS, because you don’t like their politics is tantamount to a declaration of war. You are in effect saying that you are going to impose your will upon the other party.
Many consider the shots at Fort Sumter to be the first shots of the Civil War, but one must remember that no one was injured or killed in that event. The first skirmish of the Civil War that involved blood was the reason why those members of Congress were expelled: The Battle of Philippi.
The incident served to embolden the Union, but it wasn’t exactly a battle. Since there had been no hostilities at this point, the 800 confederate volunteers, who had not yet even formed into regiments, didn’t post any sentries and were unprepared for battle. The 3,000 Union troops surrounded and entered the town, intending to perform a sneak attack. This sneak attack accidentally began prematurely when Union troops scuffled with a farm owner. The shots caused the unprepared confederates to rout, and there were a few casualties on both sides (a total of 30, to be precise).
The Union press seized upon this rout of the confederates, and predicted that the war would be a pushover that would end in a few weeks. Some political machinations led to the congressional expulsions, with the Union replacing those members with northern sympathizers.
As a result of the sneak attack, the Union ordered the Union general (McClelland) to invade Virginia and drive to Richmond.
Seeing no other option, the Confederates decided that armed resistance was the only solution. The first battle of Bull Run came ten days after those members of the legislature were expelled. That battle was the first organized battle of the war, and resulted in 4,700 casualties.
Is that what they want? Do they think that the war will be easily won? Are they planning on kicking out our legislators, gaming the courts, and ruling over us? If so, do they think that we will simply accept being ruled? Judging by some of their statements, it seems so.
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Karl Ushanka · July 13, 2022 at 12:01 pm
If we were having a beer, DIvemedic, I’d slur that this is apples and oranges thing and your analogy is lacking.
I would want to know/meet/shake hands with every one of those Southerners lost in Bull Run. Probably the coolest guys in the world.
Those who will die in CW2? No thanks. They have no redeeming qualities, and too many pronouns. I’ve read Marx. I know what they stand for, and it ain’t states rights.
(Back in 84 I was a Yankee from Chicago, who got a good taste of CW1 from the drill sergeants when I reported to basic training at Fort McClelland. The South sure can hold a grudge!)
Divemedic · July 13, 2022 at 6:30 pm
The point here is that the left thinks that they are the heroic north, saving the black man from the evil southern redneck. They also think that this will be a quick, easy victory that will not affect them personally. Because of this, they think that they are free to cut the right out of government and rule over them.
What they don’t realize is that they are repeating the mistakes in judgment that were made by the north, and it was these mistaken judgments that made CW1 the bloodbath that it was.
mike · July 13, 2022 at 12:25 pm
It is conveniently forgotten that the Northern states did not merely intend to “free” the slaves. It was not even a stated Union war aim until 1862, and even then the EP only applied to Confederate States and not MD, DE, Ky, or MS. It was the intention of the Abolitionist movement to exterminate the white Southerners by instigating a mass slave revolt similar to the 1790’s salve revolt in present day Haiti. That one resulted in the complete elimination by violent death of all the white French colonials on the island. Look it up for some insight to what BLM and the black nationalist militias would like to do today. John Brown loved that idea and his attempt to put it into action at Harpers Ferry was one of the last straws for the South. In the years leading up to the war, the Abolitionists opposed any compromise with the South that might leave existing institutions and populations in place, even if such compromise would have freed the slaves. The Southern people were no fools. In their view there was no reason to be politically attached to a collection of states that wanted to see Southern whites killed and replaced by a foreign race. As a means of self defense and using the same moral construct that the colonies invoked in 1776, “consent of the governed” , they voted to leave in a dignified manner through each state’s legislature. They formed their own central government and adopted a new Constitution. It should be noted that most of the Abolitionists were extremely disappointed that the War and subsequent Reconstruction period did not result in the complete eradication of Southern whites and the establishment of a black nation in its place.
This may all be ancient history as far as we are concerned today, but the point is that the driving philosophy behind the radical abolitionists has not gone away. It is still with us and is practiced by the violent radicals on the Left. They will use the Federal Gov again as a weapon against their enemies as long as they can, but ultimately the United States itself is their enemy and they do intend to destroy that tool as well. As for Heritage Americans, they expect us to die. So yes, they seem to think that a new civil war will accomplish that for them.
JaimeInTexas · July 14, 2022 at 1:22 pm
Another memory holed item. Recall that the Articles Of Confederation the former Colonies, and now independent States/Nations, were in “perpetual” confederation/union and where
“No two or more states shall enter into any treaty, confederation, or alliance whatever between them, without the consent of the united states, in congress assembled, specifying accurately the purposes for which the same is to be entered into, and how long it shall continue.”
And, yet, each seceded from the Articles by joining into a new Constitution without a vote of the AoC’s Congress.
Surly · July 13, 2022 at 1:20 pm
Actually Irvin McDowell was the Union commander at First Bull Run. He was replaced by McClellan afterwards.
Divemedic · July 13, 2022 at 6:31 pm
You are correct. My bad.
JaimeInTexas · July 14, 2022 at 1:10 pm
Thanks for this bit of history. I was unaware of this battle.
Check out the Battle of Pensacola, January 1861.
1st Manassas.
Battle in Western Virginia, in the supposedly “State” of West Virginia.
Big Ruckus D · July 13, 2022 at 2:25 pm
I’d say things are on trajectory and on pace for substantially similar events to take place (history rhyming, as it so often likes to do). The divisions that have been cultivated and sowed are now maturing into the monsters they were always destined to be.
There can be no compromise with these people, what they believe – and their way of doing things – is fundamentally incompatible with ours. They are diametrically opposed to what is right and good, and one simply does not bargain with such evil. One tells it to fuck off, and then goes about defeating it totally. As usual, the left will be the side to set aside all considerstions of law and tradition to do something like expel (or arrange the assasination of) representatives or judges, and/or packing the court, justifying the act as a means of cutting off any further resistance from the right, as if that could actually work.
Doing so will be the inflection point that drives home the fact the system cannot be made to work any longer, not with the left present and running things. It is a very short hop from there to the good guys deciding they have nothing else left to lose by going to war, as they will be good as dead already if they fail to act in their own interests.
Presumably the left will also instigate an attack fully intended to draw a violent response, which will then be publicly condemned (they do control the govt and media, after all), which in turn will be used to justify further violent military and civilian actions by the left to tamp down the resistance, and events will then sprial towards their natural end point. This is a predictable cycle of human behavior, and it supercedes all the high minded and orderly ideas of law and deference to authority. Even knowing that, to watch it playing out is rather remarkable
EN2 SS · July 13, 2022 at 9:39 pm
When the shooting starts, the politicians and media don’t realize that they will be the FIRST order of business.
Big Ruckus D · July 13, 2022 at 10:28 pm
We live in hope. Culpability absolutely needs to be forced on the bad actors. I worry that many will slink away in the confusion that ensues.
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