A woman in Minneapolis is pulled over for a seatbelt violation and for using a cell phone while driving. The cop who pulls her over sees her CCW in her wallet and loses his shit.
The woman says that this is common behavior for black motorists. I disagree. I had a similar experience at the hands of an Orange County Deputy Sergeant a few years ago. I don’t think it is necessarily a black/white thing. It’s a cop combat mentality thing.
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Jonathan · February 18, 2022 at 7:53 pm
I’m disappointed but not surprised. For two reasons:
1. There are LOTS of cops who treat any gun not theirs as a threat or a crime.
2. This is in Minneapolis; Minnesota in general is bad about gun rights and gun usage; Minneapolis is much worse, from what I’ve heard almost as bad as DC as far as ordinary people and guns.
J. Smith · February 18, 2022 at 9:00 pm
Its not a cop combat mentality thing, it is the behavior of someone who is not cutout to handle the rigors of the profession and cant process information rationally or expeditiously. an ass-clam such as this, if LEOs had peer review as does SOF would have been peered out through his training and grooming process long ago, this isnt just a cop having a bad day. Roast em, get a cdl and drive truck, pays more anyway most of the time and you are no longer a detriment to society while wearing a badge.
Russell G. · February 19, 2022 at 6:24 am
In our county, knowing some of the sheriffs by some weird convos up close, they come out of the box psycho. We’re a 2A sanctuary county, as well. The higher up they go in rank the worse they react to trivial shit. “Unstable” should be that word you think of at all times.
anonintexas · February 19, 2022 at 9:59 am
About 3 years ago I was stopped by a Harris County sheriff. Unknown reason. I pulled over into leftmost emergency lane, opened the driver side window, turned off car, put keys on dashboard, pulled out wallet. Out of the wallet came my driver license, CC license and proof insurance. Put all on dash and both hands on steering wheel. All before the officer came over. When he came over I handed the “papers”, hand back on steering wheel. Before he handed back the stuff, he asked where the weapon was. Keeping my hands on the steering wheel just said “front right pocket”. He looked, mentioned he saw and gave me back my docs. I grabbed them, put them on the dash and, again, hand to the steering wheel. We had a conversation and I was let go. I told him how I was going to rejoin the traffic and I left.
Very business like and professional.
Divemedic · February 19, 2022 at 10:04 am
They always are when you bow and scrape. I stopped informing police of the fact that I was carrying, after the incident that I had.
Jonathan · February 19, 2022 at 10:47 am
An increasing number of states no longer require informing the officer.
I think it’s a pointless requirement because if you’re carrying well, there is no way for them to tell, so they can’t tell if you’re lying or not – an unenforceable law is counterproductive.
Jim R · February 19, 2022 at 1:56 pm
In North Carolina, you must notify, and NC permits are linked to your driver’s license. The law seems to indicate you must notify when approached if you have a permit *and* are carrying, but the ncdoj training for law enforcement officers seems to tell them notification is required whether you are carrying or not. Sound like an excellent opportunity for a disagreement. In our permit class, it was suggested that we state “NC law requires me to inform you I have a concealed carry permit.” I think the idea is to frame it as dealing with routine administrivia rather than something the officer should be concerned about.
https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_14/Article_54B.pdf Paragraph 14-415.11
“shall disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun when approached or addressed by the officer…”
https://ncdoj.gov/law-enforcement-training/law-enforcement-liason/concealed-weapon-reciprocity/
“Disclose the fact that you have a valid concealed handgun permit when you are approached or addressed by any law enforcement officer in North Carolina.”
Divemedic · February 19, 2022 at 2:36 pm
The first link you posted is the law. “…shall disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun when approached or addressed by the officer…”
It only applies if you are carrying a handgun at the time. Violating it is not a crime, but an infraction with a fine of not more than $100.
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