There are people in comments who still believe this national ship can be saved, that somehow the nation can right itself, if only we elect the right people. Let me explain why that can’t- and more importantly, won’t happen.

The Debt

We currently have a $40 trillion national debt. Here is how it breaks down:

  • $8 trillion of that is money we owe to ourselves in money that was stolen from Social Security. Essentially, the SS trust fund is a pocket full of IOUs that we left behind when we spent the trust fund money.
  • $20 trillion of that is owed to mutual funds, pension funds, insurance companies, banks, and individual investors who hold T-bills and Savings bonds
  • about $5 trillion is owed to the Federal Reserve
  • $9 trillion to Foreign investors
  • The remainder to state and local governments

We are 8th in the top 10 largest debtor nations in the world.

  1. Sudan ~252%
  2. Japan ~230%
  3. Singapore ~175%
  4. Greece ~142%
  5. Bahrain ~141%
  6. Maldives ~141%
  7. Italy ~137%
  8. United States ~123%
  9. France ~116%
  10. Canada ~113%

Just two years ago, we were tied for 10th place with Bahrain.

Repudiating this debt will destroy pension funds and savings of US citizens more than it will hurt others. Of course, that will have to happen eventually, and when it does, the US economy will completely tank.

Budget Deficit

The US has a huge budget deficit. Last fiscal year, the US government spent $7 trillion, but only collected $5.2 trillion in taxes. To illustrate the scope, it only cost $296 billion to fight all 4 years of World War 2 ($4 trillion in today’s dollars).

What Voters Want

Every voter in the US has their own pet projects they don’t want cut. The fact is, about 60% of the residents of the US gets more in Federal funding than they pay in taxes, and there is no recovering from that. To illustrate- what would you say if DJT announced tomorrow that to save the nation, the entire Social Security and Medicare system was ending on January 21, but the taxes would remain in order to pay off the massive $40 trillion in debt? Would you:

  • Be OK with that, calmly walking into personal bankruptcy, secure in the knowledge that your personal sacrifice saved the nation?
  • or would you scream some variation of “That’s my money! You took it from me, and I want it back!”

That’s why we have a deficit in the first place. Any politician who votes to cut those pet projects will get voted out of office. Imagine someone voting to stop paying Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, the military, or any other project that people consider to be important to them. Fill in the project that’s important to you, and you will see the issue. If ~60% of people are net recipients in an annual sense, asking them to accept an immediate, visible hit to their lifestyle is fighting three stacked disadvantages:

  • Loss aversion beats civic virtue: People weigh losses about 2× more heavily than equivalent gains. “You’ll lose X now for a collective benefit later” is psychologically uphill.
  • Diffuse benefits vs. concentrated pain: The “public good” is abstract and long-term. The lifestyle hit is personal, concrete, and immediate.
  • Electoral time horizons are short: Voters punish pain now even if it prevents worse pain later. Politicians know this and act accordingly, which is why the can keeps getting kicked down the road. That’s a problem for future America, but politicians need votes now.

That combination is why austerity platforms almost always lose in normal times. It just isn’t possible to change our nation’s course. Voting won’t change it. Politicians work to provide graft for themselves, while at the same time sending money to their base constituency. Call it doomsaying, call it black pill, call it what you want- but saying that we can vote our way out of this is foolishly mistaken. There are no cuts, no magic wand waving, and no solution that the people of this nation will accept until they are forced to accept it. This only ends when the current system collapses.

Whatever your own personal theory on how to save this sinking fiscal ship, there isn’t one that enough people will accept that will be doable in an electoral sense. It just isn’t going to happen. Instead of fixing it, we kept kicking the can down the road, and we will continue to do so until it all collapses.

This isn’t a new thing- I have been telling people this for 20 years.

So what will happen? The lesson is found over and over again in history books. Economic collapse will create hard times. People will demand that the government fix things. Once voters believe that some scapegoat:

  • The wealthy
  • Corporations
  • Political elites
  • Capitalism itself

are insulated or there is some gaming of the system, support collapses instantly. Even small symbolic elite sacrifice can matter more than the raw dollars. At that point, the electorate demands that something be done.

What doesn’t work

  • “It’s economically responsible”
  • “Experts say we must…”
  • “Future generations”
  • “The math demands it”
  • “Hard choices”

Those arguments persuade analysts, not electorates. Thinking people, capable of reason. There are people that read this very blog, perhaps even you, who are seeking scapegoats. Instead of asking 60% to accept cuts, democracies tend to choose:

  • Inflation (stealth lifestyle reduction)
  • Debt monetization
  • Bracket creep
  • Means-testing by complexity
  • Regulatory costs instead of taxes
  • Deferred pain

These spread losses invisibly and avoid direct electoral punishment. So what tends to happen when an electorate kicks the can down the road over and over again, until the inevitable happens, and the can just can’t be kicked any further?

Economic Collapse

This is one of those questions where history is depressingly consistent. When electorates repeatedly defer pain and the system finally hits a hard constraint (currency, credit, or productive capacity breaks) the outcome tends to follow a fairly predictable sequence. The details vary by country, but the pattern shows up again and again.

Stage 1: Sudden loss of illusion

For a long time, reality is abstract:

  • Debt numbers are big but distant
  • Inflation is “temporary”
  • Growth is “around the corner”

Then something snaps:

  • Bond markets revolt
  • The currency plunges
  • Banks freeze withdrawals
  • Imports disappear
  • Pensions don’t pay on time

This is the moment when credibility collapses faster than the economy. People don’t just lose money, they lose trust in the system’s promises.

Stage 2: Rapid political radicalization

Once the can truly can’t be kicked:

  • Centrists get wiped out
  • “Responsible gradualism” is treated as betrayal
  • Voters jump to whoever sounds decisive, not correct
  • You usually see:
  • Hard-left promises to protect livelihoods at any cost
  • Hard-right promises to restore order by force if needed
  • Populists blaming internal enemies, external enemies, or both

The technical cause of collapse (debt, demographics, productivity) becomes irrelevant. Politics turns moral and tribal. I believe that we are in the later portions of Stage 1, and the beginning portions of Stage 2.

Stage 3: Emergency economics

Normal rules die quickly. Governments reach for:

  • Capital controls
  • Forced conversions of savings from personal to government accounts. Seizing of retirement accounts, 401k’s, those sorts of things. They are ready sources of emergency cash. At last count, Americans have about $48 trillion in retirement savings. That amount of money is quite tempting.
  • Pension “adjustments”
  • Price controls
  • Nationalizations
  • Wealth grabs framed as a form of “social justice”- it isn’t fair that rich people have so much, while poor people have so little.

These measures are rarely optimal—but they are fast, visible, and politically palatable. The goal shifts from efficiency to maintaining order. This is likely the point where our government as we know it is gone. We will essentially have a Communist/Socialist government, and even though caused by profligate government spending, capitalism and capitalists will be blamed for the failure.

Stage 4: Informal systems replace formal ones

As institutions lose credibility:

  • Black markets explode
  • Barter reappears
  • Hard assets substitute for money
  • Family, ethnic, or local networks matter more than law
  • The state still exists, but compliance becomes conditional and transactional.

At this point, the social contract is already broken, even if the flag still flies over the ruins.

Stage 5: Scapegoating and memory laundering

Once the pain is unavoidable, the electorate rewrites history. Typical narratives:

  • “We were lied to”
  • “This was done to us”
  • “If only we had stopped them earlier”

The scapegoats pay the price. Rarely do electorates say: “We voted for this path over decades.” Responsibility is externalized because collective guilt is politically unusable. This is when the scapegoats are imprisoned or even slaughtered.

Stage 6: One of three endgames

  1. Authoritarian stabilization
  • Strong executive power
  • Crushed opposition
  • Managed scarcity

Partial economic recovery at the cost of liberty. This is historically the most common outcome.

  1. Painful democratic reset
  • Mass defaults or restructuring
  • Pension and entitlement cuts
  • Currency reset
  • Lost decade(s)
  • Eventually sustainable footing

This requires exceptional institutional strength and social trust. Rare, but real. I think this is the least likely path that will occur here. There is not enough national unity and too much tribalism for that to occur in the US.

  1. Fragmentation or chronic instability
  • Brain drain
  • Persistent inflation
  • Cycles of protest and repression
  • Weak state capacity
  • Not a collapse into chaos—just a long, grinding stagnation.

I think this is less likely than than authoritarianism.

This is what history says happens time and time again. History doesn’t repeat, but it sure does rhyme.

The way things are going, I think we are going to see a communist dictatorship, unless the US gun owning public joins the fray. I don’t see that as being likely, however, for the same reason why people won’t vote to cut their own benefits for the public good. If a person won’t vote for fiscal martyrdom for the public good, they certainly won’t elect to throw themselves into the civil war meat grinder.

No, the right will continue to sit on the sidelines, claiming that the time isn’t right to act, until it is too late for that to help. This ship is going down, and there is nothing to be done but hope it won’t happen during your lifetime.

Categories: The Collapse

29 Comments

Steve · February 7, 2026 at 11:00 am

Well argued.

While on paper, it’s salvageable, politically it may not be. Definitely not if done piecemeal. What it would require is the termination of all government-mediated and -mandated benefits. Not just SS and Medicare, Medicaid and SNAP, Section 8 and Title IX, but also all government pensions and lifetime health. Not just military, Congress, the various agencies, clear down to teachers and police and firefighters and social workers.

If everyone and I mean everyone has to take a haircut, especially the banksters and fraudsters feeding directly from the trough, and charity returns to being a private matter, I think people will put up with it, though not without a lot of kicking and screaming. Those SS and pensioners who didn’t bother to save extra, trusting the government to continue to mulct their fellow man out of their money, Historically churches and fraternal organizations, but because of the increased secularization of society, atheists are going to have to step up to the plate, too.

BTW, like you, divemedic, I’ve done a pretty good job of saving. I have more in just PMs than most people have all told, including their home equity. Personally, I’d be fine with starting with SS and Medicare, but that’s a political loser. It has to be everything or nothing.

Himself · February 7, 2026 at 11:29 am

The debt is only one aspect. I read an update to the Fourth Turning that had four possible outcomes to thes mess we’re in. The rosiest one was that we worked things out and life went on. I don’t see that happening for reasons you outline. You can’t work it out when one side thinks the others are idiots and the other thinks they are evil.

The other is all out war. We won’t come out of that the same. And we are certainly stupid enough these days to do that. One other one was that we blow apart into regions.- new countries. I can see that. Doesn’t explain how you convert currencies though.

They’ve been coveting 401k money since the plans came out. Wasn’t long after they were created that I was hearing stories from these lib whack jobs saying it wasn’t fair that we had that money.

Plague Monk · February 7, 2026 at 11:29 am

I’ve been warning of this for decades, mostly before the days of the internet, and my wife and I have prepared as best as we can.

I get more intelligent conversations on this topic with my cats than I do with most people, so I’ve largely stopped trying to sound the alarm.

I attend a Pentecostal church in the NE suburbs of Cincinnati(my wife is a member; I’m not). She goes to a lot of church events; I go to a few of them(I’m not very devout, just enough to qualify for the Christian health care plan we’re on)

There is an alleged great revival that is sweeping the US, and the world, but I don’t see the signs of it myself, and most of the people pushing this are just in it for the money(IMNSHO).

The pastor here is a nice guy, but he preaches that we don’t need to prepare for anything, as Jesus is coming back Real soon Now, and will take all the Christians away via the Rupture, er, Rapture. Just give sacrificially to the church, don’t ask where the money goes, and donate to Africans instead of Americans.

He and the speakers that we get, at least the American ones, all are rejoicing at the idea of societal collapse, since they(we? I have my quiet doubts) will be taken away in an instant, any moment now. The African ones are just 300 lb land whale females, and I stopped attending Sunday school after one talked about Elon Musk should give away everything to Africans. I almost stroked out, but I didn’t say anything.(The next day, I bought another rifle with my wife’s blessing)

I would love for this to be true, since I believe that if this happens, we will be reunited with our deceased pets, and we had to put to sleep my little girl Sunday night, and I miss her terribly.

But I’ve worked too many years, both as a semi-pro political/military analyst and a numbers oriented mechanical designer, to believe in wishful thinking. I don’t have the faith that everything is going to be all right. I wish I did; I’d like to think that there are quite a few cats and a few dogs waiting for my wife and me on the other side of the rainbow bridge.

    Dragonslayer · February 7, 2026 at 12:12 pm

    There’s not going to be a rapture. It’s a fairly new (late 1800’s) concept that really has no biblical proof other than twisting a few scriptures to fit the notion. It’s going to cause a “great falling away” among christians who believe in it. Where in the Bible did God ever not allow His people to go through the same tribulations as the unfaithful? Why does He allow devout Christians in China and other places to go through tough times? The apostles? Martyred! American christians are, for the most part, unbelievably deceived and soft. I’m a Believer and I believe tough times are ahead for all of us. Call me names, tell me why I’m wrong, I don’t care. I’m not saying this to start a fight, but to, hopefully, get a few people thinking and strengthening their faith and hearts for what’s ahead.

      Steve · February 7, 2026 at 1:27 pm

      At the very least it goes back to John Darby in the early 1800s. But pre-trib millennialism goes back centuries. It was a big thing in 999 AD.

Anonymous · February 7, 2026 at 11:34 am

Inquiring who (whom ) you might consider the scapegoats in this onrushing doom, my good feline commentator? A continued thrashing and rush to the ancestors builders of this civilization?

Steady Steve · February 7, 2026 at 12:09 pm

A well thought out essay. It’s frustrating for those of us who could see years ago that long term changes were needed. Mainly because almost anyone you talked to about it was just not interested as long as they could pay their bills and have beer and sportsball. I think it more likely that we will see a break up into several regions. Some of these will be more stable than others.

    Divemedic · February 7, 2026 at 12:26 pm

    Those sections of the nation who have grifters sucking at the taxpayer teat will never permit the areas with actual taxpayers to leave.

      Exile1981 · February 7, 2026 at 3:10 pm

      That is exactly the discussion i have had with people here in Alberta. Yes there is support of about 30% for independence for AB. Unfortunately the feds will never allow it as we are the cash cow keeping Canada afloat, without our taxes the ponzi cards all fall down today.

TRX · February 7, 2026 at 12:26 pm

> At last count, Americans have about $48 trillion in retirement savings.

The Obama Administration tried going after some of that. I think they got an airline pension fund and some small fry. The media, of course, claimed that it was all wonderful, but the Administration dropped the idea after a few nibbles, at least publicly.

What they tried once, they’ll try again.

Michael · February 7, 2026 at 1:19 pm

There is another scenario I’ve been pondering given how much trouble America has been to China and how China NEEDS our farmlands.

Various NGO’s some funded by Soros, others by this or that and China’s efforts to destabilize an already fragmented and chaotic nation as to stumble into economic failure, social collapse and the Chinese just wait (adding whatever direct action here and there) until a year after the lights go out.

America population crashes and a Chinese (maybe others) provinces are established, and any survivors can be drone hunted as needed.

Goodness how many of our comms are CHINESE MADE and SO CHEAP. Almost like Israels’ creating a front company to supply Lebanon with cheap (explosive) PAGERS a year or two ago.

They don’t need to go boom. Just anytime you have batteries in it they can CHIRP it just like we do for Search and Rescue on “dead cellphones” that cannot make calls.

CHIRP, CHIRP, CHIRP and Boom from the drone.

Treefarmer · February 7, 2026 at 1:47 pm

Just imagine the amount of suffering and death that will happen as this is resolved. We’re talking about Dark Ages levels. Very few people have studied that history and understand what that means.

J J · February 7, 2026 at 2:36 pm

There’s no saving what’s become of the USA. It’s going down in flames, taking most if not all of the rest of the world down with it. Maybe even the green elites will get their wet dreams of billions of human beings dead. Certainly hundreds of millions.

godhelpus · February 7, 2026 at 4:11 pm

Excellent summary! I agree completely. Maybe I missed it but the 35-50 trillion in “off the books” unfunded future obligations is pulling the collapse trigger closer and closer to snapping. And I also agree there is no salvation from the coming collapse.

Barbarus · February 8, 2026 at 7:57 am

There is a theoretical, at least, way out: economic growth. It is difficult for governments to instigate as they are mainly set up to tax and regulate, both of which tend to oppose growth. Worse, the usual government approach to “growth” is to subsidise something, thereby increasing taxes and (via strings attached to the subsidy) regulation. Still, if something can be achieved in that way by deregulation (and yes, that can be another vote loser) and/or new technology (e.g. AI, quantum computing maybe) then a virtuous circle can be started. Still need to make sure the money does not get spent before it is earned, again.

    Divemedic · February 8, 2026 at 9:11 am

    OK. What would this look like? How does the US encourage this growth?

feelingGrumpy · February 8, 2026 at 8:32 am

I sure wish you didn’t know what you were talking about … but I suspect you’re being optimistic. Take the most optimistic feelings about Trump and his actions – and find he’s nothing more than a bump in the road. I’m guessing we have until the return of “peaceful protest” weather in another month or two.

    Divemedic · February 8, 2026 at 9:14 am

    As usual, I can give you a “no riot” guarantee within 200 yards of my position

Jonesy · February 8, 2026 at 2:50 pm

The 401k/retirement account nest egg is the holy grail. If they go after that we’ll be told it’s for the the good of the country, but no politician will able to resist robbing it blind for personal gain. Collectively, it will be used for expanding the welfare state, not paying down any debt. The fraud machine will make what we see today like amateur hour.

There is another mechanism that can be used to delay this further. World War. A realignment of global finances, with us taking the spoils (assuming we win) buys another decade or two.

    Divemedic · February 8, 2026 at 3:00 pm

    What would we fight a war with? We don’t have anything close to the manufacturing capacity of the 1940s.

      Tree Mike · February 8, 2026 at 7:27 pm

      That!^^^(((They))) bought up all the good companies, monetized them, shipped manufacturing overseas, laid off Americans, sold the physical factories for scap, asset stripped them, bankrupted them and claimed the losses on their taxes. I know you’re atheist or agnostic, but you don’t have to believe in Satan to know that his (((followers, commie, Jooo, pedo, cannibalistic, parasitic, evil doers))), do just that.
      PS Hope your job search is going well.

      Jonesy · February 9, 2026 at 3:05 pm

      Well, how things unfold would have a lot to do with it. We would have to focus on the nearest peer, which is China. The rest of NATO would likely be on their own with Russia. Iran demonstrated they can be decapitated pretty quickly, and can’t counter our attacks. Israel will gladly keep the Mideast in line. Who else helps us? Australia? What does south America do? Does everyone keep the fingers off the nuke button? So many variables.
      And if we collapse, that alone could trigger world war to fill the vacuum we leave behind. All of it sucks

thomasblair · February 9, 2026 at 9:02 am

The only substantive disagreement I have with this is we’re still in the early steps of Stage 1 – there’s been no snap:
– Bond markets still clear
– Currency continues to be inflated away, but it’s still single digits per year – no plunge
– No widespread withdrawal freezes (there are always some failures, even large ones like SVB)
– Imports still flow
– Pensions still pay, including SS

It feels close, but there’s a lot of ruin in a nation. A strong counterpoint is that we’re not really a nation anymore, but that has more bearing on what happens from Stage 2 onward than it does on any particular fiscal or monetary trigger listed in Stage 1.

    Divemedic · February 9, 2026 at 9:22 am

    The bond market continues to show instability that is causing prices to fall. As I am sure my readers know, falling bond prices mean increasing yields.
    Inflation is only OFFICIALLY low. The actual rate of inflation is 2 or more percent higher than the official number.
    Bank freezes are only being prevented by large cash infusions from the government to keep banks solvent.

      thomasblair · February 9, 2026 at 11:24 am

      No dispute with any info presented here – I just don’t think it qualifies as a snap that takes us into Stage 2.

      Bond prices are falling, but the sales are still closing.
      Official inflation is subject to all sorts of games like changes to the basket, substitution games, hedonic adjustments, owner’s equivalent rent, and the ridiculous weighting of the mix that underreports the biggest drivers like housing/healthcare/education. Even in the worst of it in late 2022, SGS had inflation at 12.5%yoy and has since declined.
      SVB was one such cash infusion (and a large one) so fair point there.

      None of this is meant to imply approval of the direction we’re headed or that we’re not in a bad situation here; I just don’t think we’ve heard the snap yet.

        Michael · February 9, 2026 at 4:59 pm

        “How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.

        “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

        “What brought it on?”

        “Friends,” said Mike. “I had a lot of friends. False friends. Then I had creditors, too. Probably had more creditors than anybody in England.”

        I’d rather be a year EARY preparing for chaos than waking up some morning to a “Banking Holiday” and so on.

        Especially when doing so actually reduces the current ongoing risk to inflation.

        Buying now stuff (Alpha Strategy) I know I’m going to use up in the next year gives me today’s prices and actual access to it. Do you remember the Toilet Paper crisis over COVID? I remember giving some “nothing going to happen friends” some TP when reality visited and they still needed to wipe their butts.

        It is TOO FREAKING LATE to reduce your cable bill and other discretionary spendings When you’re BROKE.

lynn · February 9, 2026 at 4:16 pm

Yup, we are screwed with our $2 trillion excess annual spending. Very tough days are coming. As I have mentioned before, reading the Mandibles scenario might be enlightening on how to survive. I have no idea how to prepare other than general preparations.

https://www.amazon.com/Mandibles-Family-2029-2047-Lionel-Shriver/dp/006232828X

Gryphon · February 9, 2026 at 6:14 pm

The ‘National Debt’ is ‘Owed’ primarily to the ‘federal reserve’ and other (((banks))). The solution is simple – REPUDIATE THE DEBT. Imprison the (((banksters))), seize their Assets.

Find out where the Gold went, send the Military to Take it Back. Nuke London and Basel if they don’t hand it over.

Issue Treasury Notes, backed by the Gold, and seized Assets, re-start the Economy based upon Honest Work; BAN all (((scams))) starting with “Commodities Futures Trading” and Usury. Make those Crimes carry the Death Penalty. By Crucifixion, in public.

End ALL ‘welfare’ for Non-Citizens, including Medical Care and Public Schools. End the ‘Birthright Citizenship Scam, Identify and Deport them. End ALL ‘government subsidies’ for EVERY ‘non-government organizations’ Foreign and Domestic.

Finally BAN all ‘Dual Citizens’ from serving in Elected Office, the Military, and .gov Employment (Like Russia did).

Look at the NaSDAP Plan for the Economic Rebuilding of Germany. Make Sure that the (((parasites))) know that This Time, they get CRUSHED if they try to interfere.

    Divemedic · February 9, 2026 at 6:55 pm

    It isn’t owed to the Federal Reserve. Read the article- more than half of it is owed to the American citizen: citizens with T-bills, savings bonds, and if you have a retirement fund or a 401k, then you own some of that debt, whether or not you know it. Repudiating that debt means destroying most people’s savings, along with the world economy.
    As far as demanding the gold back and nuking everyone who won’t hand it over, well, that’s not going to work. You want to ban charging interest? Cool. How are you going to build a house? Buy a car?

    Your idea is drivel. I will not endorse the NaSDAP plan for anything. Honestly, this comment is so nonsensical, you are either a Fed, a lefty plant, or you have suffered a serious brain injury. I just can’t with this.

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