I am sure that you have all seen the texts that were supposedly between Kirk’s murderer and his tranny love interest. I don’t buy it. No one, especially not young adults, sends texts like that, complete with proper capitalization, punctuation, complete sentences, and all. The texts were so complete and perfectly laid out the entire crime.
So if they aren’t real, then who faked them, and why? There are a number of options:
The Feds
This is the most obvious, and would indicate that there are some Machiavellian shenanigans going on. In my mind, this isn’t likely.
The shooter himself:
It sounds like a scripted conversation that is left for someone else. Perhaps to protect his lover from being charged, or even some other co-conspirator. See, if he only thought of it a week ago, and did so on his own, then no one else will be charged, right? In my mind, this is the most likely.
Some other party? Who knows, there is not yet any real evidence of this being the case.
Or the final option- it’s a real conversation. What say ye?
Note: Since I am tired of hearing it, no comments blaming “the Jews” or Israel will be permitted unless there is evidence linked to in the comment. To bring this up, you have to have more evidence than your own fevered imagination.
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Birdog357 · September 17, 2025 at 7:25 pm
Option 3: We know these people are not normal, that’s blindingly obvious. So it’s a real conversation between two broken people. Although option 2 is a good possibility.
Divemedic · September 17, 2025 at 8:06 pm
The only problem with option 3, is that it ignores the fact that multiple lefties predicted the shooting weeks in advance. One lefty doing so may be coincidence, but at least half a dozen of them did so, all located in Utah. I just don’t see that as likely.
Birdog357 · September 19, 2025 at 7:05 am
I’ve changed it to a form of #2, it was a Trantifa cell and it was pre planned, only question is, is the boyfriend in on it or is the asshole genuinely trying to protect him?
Robert · September 17, 2025 at 7:31 pm
I am going with “a scripted conversation between the two people to protect the roommate/partner”. The texting was done by voice-to-text interpretation, hence the lack of typographical errors. And yes, they really do talk that way to each other. They are acting out a prepared script. Of course, it will sound stilted and artificial.
Yes, IMO the partner knew what the shooter was planning and doing.
As for the rest, follow the money. Check every single bank transaction either one of them made in the last six months. Do the same with every person they have contacted for three degrees of connection. The Federales are really good at this sort of thing if they are directed (and allowed) to do it.
If there was any wider conspiracy, those methods will detect it. That is a very big “IF” right now, but the chances are not zero. It could just be two crazy people amplifying their respective insanities. Or it could be a dozen crazy people. Or there could be a “handler” in the mix to orchestrate the crazies.
I’ll wait for a bit more evidence before committing to the theories of wider influences. But again, those chances are not yet zero.
Oh look! A squirrel!
Rick Robertson · September 17, 2025 at 9:20 pm
Option 1 for me. The texts just conveniently fill in too many gaps in the story. Also, what zoomer uses language like that? I mean vehicle instead of car, for example. That sounds like copspeak to me. This is from X account Murray@rothbard1776
“I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I have a REALLY hard time believing in a short text exchange, the alleged shooter:
> Makes his confession.
> Confirms location of the weapon.
> Confirms the type of weapon.
> Confirms it was wrapped in a towel.
> Confirms his motive.
> Exonerates the decoy [George Zinn].
> Admits to the bullet engravings.
> Confirms the wardrobe change.
> Confirms how long he’s been planning it.
> Discloses the existence and location of a [now destroyed] pre-written confession note.
> Randomly tells his boyfriend that his dad is die hard MAGA (as if he wouldn’t already know given the nature of their relationship)
> And is worried about his Dad/Grandpa being upset if he doesn’t come home with the rifle, not the fact that he just used it to commit a murder.
Not to mention a 22-year old terminally online Zoomer using phrases like:
“Squad car”
“Drop point”
“Swept the area”
“My vehicle”
“Till I died of old age”
“My old man”
I’m sorry, I just don’t believe it.”
H/T @urinalwallpoet @andrewmaga84
beans · September 17, 2025 at 9:03 pm
You know who, besides old folk, use correct grammar and punctuation? Weirdos trying to separate themselves from the fold of ‘normies.’
So, yes, could actually be two twinks texting each other. Or not. Wait, see what comes about 72 hours or so after the release.
And (sigh,) just because it’s weird doesn’t make it Fed run.
It may have been watched by the Feds, but sometimes whackjobs are, surprisingly, not considered normal for the normal statistical normal for a population.
“OMG, Must be FEDDSSSS killed The Kirk!!!! Because correct grammar and punctuation!!!!” says the same people that “OMG, Must be FEDDSSS killed The Kirk!!! Because noboby but trained SEAL Operators/DELTA Smelt can make a shot from 200 yards away using some super-secret caliber like .300Blackout fired out of a $10,000 or more super-operator-designed mega-rifle!!!!!! BECAUSE FEDDDDSSSS!!!!!”
And the rifle turned out to be a bog-standard Mauser in .30-06 and… 200 yards is ‘Danger Close’ for deer in Utah. Kids are killing deer and elk and bear and sheep at far greater ranges using the same type gun as the shooter.
Another conspiracy bites the dust… over the gun.
We’ll wait to see if the message conspiracy bites the dust. My suspicion is, yes, fake conspiracy but I’ll wait to see.
And I’m going to use the very scientific statement about the whole sucky situation. “I just don’t know. Not enough information. So far my hypothesis over Tranny-Antifa seems to be true but I’ll wait for more intel to come in to finalize my thoughts. Could it be THE FEDDDSSSSS!!!!? Yes. Could be radical scientologists, Mormons on crack, The Amish, Bigfoot, Space Aliens, Bigfoot Space Aliens. Because, though we seem to have arrested the shooter and know his motives and there seems to be a conspiracy of Antifa involved, we don’t know enough.”
Very scientific. And it pisses people off. Because I refuse to jump on the Conspiracy Train. So should you all. If you’re Conspiracy Train riding, ask yourself, who’s behind the conspiracy?
Divemedic · September 18, 2025 at 5:04 am
My own conspiracy theory, that both fits the facts and doesn’t require some smoking man?
It was a group of tranny communists that are a part of the Antifa crowd. TR is the front man. This was a scripted text, intended to exonerate the rest of the group.
Michael · September 18, 2025 at 6:29 am
Beans, a bog standard 30-06 through the neck at 200 years. Do you hunt Beans?
OK, as a combat medic I’ve seen plenty of high velocity wounds in the field still stinking of blood, explosives and shit. WHERES THE SPLATTER?
Everyone I’ve treated that had folks around the shot victim got some splatter and ODDLY UNLIKE the Trump Shooting, NOBODY ELSE seems to have caught a slug from the VAST OVER-Penetration of a 30-06 round.
Something isn’t right here. Too many “live” feeds and nobody splattered, let alone injured.
beans · September 18, 2025 at 1:07 pm
Firing bog-standard FMJ. There won’t be a huge amount of blood splatter. Especially since the blood all exited in a huge gush/fountain.
Bog-standard FMJ at that close from a .30-06, which is pretty much the definition of high velocity won’t blood splatter like expanding tips or squibs on tv.
So what’s your explanation for the bullet? Fired from the front? Ice? Space Aliens?
And just because one bullet causes spray like a garden hose doesn’t mean another will do.
Occam’s Razor states the simplest answer is probably the correct answer. Simplest answer, .30-06 from 200 yards, an easy clap shot for someone with some modicum of practice.
Michael · September 18, 2025 at 7:30 pm
Beans, clearly, you’ve never seen the effects of a supersonic 30-06, 7.62mm, or 5.56mm Full Metal Jacket Bullet on a Human.
Splatter happens as does over-penetration into nearby people.
This was at a college campus with plenty of young people all around WITH CELL PHONES. Any reports of Splatter or other folks getting harmed there?
If you have any real-life combat experience about this, please share. I’ve more than a few months in live fire exercises in the Sandbox and other places as a Combat Media, patching up shot soldiers and civilians.
What does Occam’s Razor mention about the angle of the shot and where the over penetrating Bog Standard 30-06 FMJ? When Trump was shot, I recall a bystander behind him got killed.
Divemedic · September 19, 2025 at 4:24 am
No two shootings are the same. Things like splatter dont happen every time.
Divemedic · September 19, 2025 at 5:52 am
I have seen a LOT of shootings- everything from shotguns, to rifles, and handguns.
I saw a guy who shot himself in the head- twice.
I saw a guy who put a shotgun barrel under his chin before pulling the trigger- he looked like a conehead.
I saw a young woman get shot more than 37 times and live.
I was there when a cop shot a man in the face, removing 8 of his teeth, and the target managed to WALK to the ambulance.
I saw an old woman, shot in the armpit by a .223 round, the exit wound was about 7 inches across. She lived.
I have seen people shot where the wounds didn’t even bleed.
Gunshot wounds aren’t all alike.
Michael · September 19, 2025 at 6:15 am
We’ve both seen plenty of shooting Friend.
We also both understand a low velocity bullet like pistol rounds in the teeth and shotguns make different wounds.
Splatter is from someone getting shot in a crowd. Like Charlie.
Still, As I’m not an internet expert I don’t know exactly what happened here but my questions stand.
With all those college kids cell phones and crowds, no splatter, no other folks injured.
Curious
Divemedic · September 19, 2025 at 6:39 am
Look at these deer being shot in the snow. No spatter. I guess that means there was a second shooter who was hidden. Must be a professional hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvzjEooTe0
Birdog357 · September 19, 2025 at 7:09 am
The round came in from the front, and there was no one behind him. That easily explains the lack of someone else getting hit or splatter from the exit wound.
It's just Boris · September 17, 2025 at 10:16 pm
I agree they are off.
Heck, I’m English professor adjacent, and old, and Mrs B and I don’t text nearly that properly. Thinking that two 20-somethings would both be that precise, especially when under immense stress, strains credibility.
mike fink · September 17, 2025 at 10:21 pm
I agree the text was staged and written in plain English because it was intended for and audience that was apart from the 2 people talking.
There are major questions about the whole thing on the timeline of events. Robinson seems to be aware of things that have not been widely reported or even discovered yet while he is claiming to still be on the crime scene waiting for a chance to sneak back and grab the rifle. Before this exchange is over, he is claiming his dad and grampa are on to him and calling him about the rifle. I won’t go through it all but there is a lot that does not fit.
There was also a discord conversation with that pack of clairvoyant trannies where they are all kidding him about looking like the FBI handout shooter pics and he confesses to them too. No timelines on either of these and 2 to 3 days of events knowledge compacted into what is being passed off as earlier conversations.
Of course we know the NSA security state and the FBI have the ability to know who called who and when and where each device was and who typed what into every laptop. They should know as a matter of course if this all a fabrication. I hope it is not the case that they know it is bogus. but are treating it like it is accurate in order to close down the the investigations before they implicate the Iranian tranny Ermiya Fanaeian, From there it could get real ugly for any bigger fish that might be involved.
I see Trump just pulled the trigger of a formal Terrorist designation for Antifa. The Agent in charge in SLC may not be able to keep a lid on this now even if they want to. Momentum is a powerful force.
EN2 SS · September 18, 2025 at 6:37 am
Note: Since I am tired of hearing it, no comments blaming “the Jews” or Israel will be permitted unless there is evidence linked to in the comment. To bring this up, you have to have more evidence than your own fevered imagination.
Thank you.
chiefjaybob · September 18, 2025 at 6:56 am
I said the exact same thing to my boss yesterday: No one under the age of 30 texts, types, substacks, instagrams, whatever, like that. Proper punctuation, fully spelled words, near proper grammar. The whole thing stinks.
Sailor Paul · September 18, 2025 at 7:54 am
I’ve got to side with Beans and Occam here. Kid was an isolated mess and seemingly carried arrogance and a persecution complex. Plus… just a weirdo overall. The mention of ‘normies’ came up, which makes think m’lady, fedoras… and those deranged messages on the casings? Kids DO talk like that, especially the femboys, which I know waaay too much about as my kid went to a frigging arts and drama charter HS.
I found it plausible, and it seems many parents of zoomers do as well.
I’m just grateful I put my kid on a NY tugboat for his gap year. Any clinging possibility of faggotry infection via exposure was beaten, cursed and shamed sufficient for him to take the lesson to heart.
Chutes Magoo · September 18, 2025 at 1:39 pm
Well, I believe it wasn’t the Moosad, because of the lack of finesse and the inevitable blowback that would make Israel an even bigger pariah, it would be an pyrrhic success for them and they don’t need any more of those.
There are balloons floating above us that see and hear everything, if the pinhead Patel can’t or won’t access that data OMB needs to find someone who can.
The evidence is out there!
@HomeInSC · September 18, 2025 at 1:43 pm
Even when we know all we are going to know about this event our knowledge will be short of the full truth. But this still sounds right.
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Silex · September 18, 2025 at 2:23 pm
Dude also had links to the Furry community (the OwO comment is an old Furry meme) and they tend to be very proper in their communications. You just go to one of their websites and aside from all of their jargon they come across as very well spoken in their writings.
Several Furry Discord servers that he was part of had major content purges in the aftermath of the shooting, suggesting that things might have been discussed there.
Also, it’s a meme, but the phrase ‘suspiciously wealthy furries’ exists for a reason. They’re insular, have money and tend to have an over abundance of gays and other deviants in their midst.
So, right now with the way things are adding up, I’d say it might be time to look into the filth and perversion peddled by the Furry community.
McChuck · September 19, 2025 at 5:54 am
“Major content purge” = destruction of evidence = cover-up.
J J · September 18, 2025 at 2:39 pm
If they want everyone to believe that exchange was written by the two people, then release every exchange between them that has been captured. Same with the Discord group messages. That would make it easier to determine if the writing styles were consistently the same across a long period of time.
Jester · September 19, 2025 at 7:30 pm
Eh if other text exchanges are released that would answer the question of if the stuff that has been releases is scripted or not. Discord exchanges, etc.
I’m on with its an antia-esque operation and a semi isolated/independent cell. Those on the right talk about their own cells or having cells for the end of the world type of stuff why would the left who are also expecting, planning and hoping it happens not be doing the same? So far as the shot, I’ve seen the results of a lot of shootings be it in animals or seeing the effects in people. If the 30-06 story is true and depending on the round it is entirely possible it does exactly what we saw. He got hit in the main artery. There’s not a lot of flesh on his neck. And so far as 150 to 200 yards with a scope and a prone level position, thats childsplay. As in I as a child/teen was making shots free hand standing like that with ease. The only question I have if the roof top position is where the shot came from where was the rifle aimed? Center mass? Head? I think either one of those is where the shot was intended. To specifically target the neck to me itself is the whole oddity. Was the rifle zeroed? To what range was it zeroed? How often did this kid actually shoot it? Again I feel the center mass or head was probally the intended shot placement, and the shot went elsewhere for whatever reason.
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