There has been reportedly been a deal reached on gun control, with 10 republicans signing on to support it. I will wait for more details since the text hasn’t been written yet, but it doesn’t look too bad. The overwhelming sense I get is that this is mostly a mental health bill. One thing that is concerning, however, is that this law will include a red flag law.
I don’t think for a second that this law will never be abused. After all, I already know from first hand experience that Domestic Violence restraining orders are routinely abused by people that want to get revenge on former paramours. A woman even was awarded one against David Letterman because, as she reported, he was beaming secret messages to her through his TV show.
I would feel better if there were a legal mechanism in place that allows for the punishment of those who abuse these legal processes in the form of what has become known as “lawfare.”
joe · June 12, 2022 at 3:24 pm
looks like money will go to assist states in passing red flag laws, not a fed red flag law…none of this will stop a future incident…but if they feel better…meh…and a long way from actually getting voted in and signed…so double meh…
Get Freight · June 14, 2022 at 10:14 pm
The issue is government continuing to establish precedent. Continuing to pass Unconstitutional legislation and expanding their “authority” beyond anything the People delegated.
It just makes the illegitimacy argument more difficult. To try and move the Overton Window back in the right direction. The more people that can see the truth, the better chance we have of correcting our course for the future.
Jonathan · June 12, 2022 at 3:33 pm
My state has a red flag law… My sheriff has said he won’t enforce it, as has almost every other sheriff in the state.
And yes, a mechanism to stop misuse is overdue.
Some states limit who can file for a “red flag” but others don’t. I hope the whole concept gets shot down soon.
Steve S · June 12, 2022 at 4:09 pm
Good points from Lawdog.
Sounds like more federal spending (where’s the money coming from? They’re beyond broke.) And seeing who signed on I expect booby traps.
Ol’guy · June 12, 2022 at 5:29 pm
Dont Keep all your eggs out of one basket
Don Curton · June 13, 2022 at 7:06 am
This kid had just turned 18. What will a back-ground check or red-flag law do to stop him. Unless you eliminate the whole “he’s a minor” thing and unseal any records he had from, say, the age of 12 and up. Even then, was there anything on his youth record to indicate a problem? I know some classmates said stuff to the news, but that ain’t gonna turn up on a background check unless he was arrested for it. New laws ain’t gonna stop what happened.
Divemedic · June 13, 2022 at 7:53 am
One of the changes in this deal that I actually support is having teenage records be considered during the background check. We have teens as young as 13 committing armed robbery.
Steve S · June 13, 2022 at 8:14 am
They won’t when they realize how racist it will be.
Elrod · June 13, 2022 at 9:27 am
IF all juvie records are incorporated into NICS AND accessible to LE – and others, specifically, general backrgound checks – it will be a useful process. Now, juvie records are a black box, hiring is a crap shoot because one has no idea what the choir boy did before he turned 18.
Some “communities” will object, strenuously, but opening the juvie records would be a positive for them, creating incentives for improvement. Small leverage, to be sure, but baby steps.
joe · June 13, 2022 at 5:33 pm
they won’t do that because it will be deemed racist…unless you are white…then they can look at your juvie record…
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