Reasoned Discourse

Got in a debate on Facebook with a couple of anti gunners today. It began with this post:

anti 1: According to the Center for Disease Control(CDC)
In the year 2007
Homicide with a firearm: 12,129 (33 a day)
Suicide with a firearm: 17,348 (47.5 a day)
Death by accidental discharge of firearm: 721 (just over 2 a day)

I reply: 

Suicide: Guns are nearly unheard of in Japan, yet Japan’s suicide rate is 23.8, versus the US rate of 11.8.
Homicide: This stat does not separate out lawful from unlawful
homicide. Even so, there are an estimated 250 million firearms in the
US, and even assuming that every firearm related homicide is caused by a
unique actor, only one out of every 25,000 firearms is used to commit a
homicide.
721 accidental firearm deaths means that pools, falling
trees, and plastic buckets all have a higher accidental fatality rate
than do firearms.
Each of the above firearm death statistics have
one thing in common: people who misuse inanimate objects. It isn’t the
firearm, it is the person misusing it.
Anti 1: 
 Since we are talking about
Japan, they have a population of roughly 130 million (or slightly less
than half of ours) but had only 1000 murders in 2010 or less than a
tenth of our murder rate. Why is our gun
murder rate so much higher? Are Americans just 12 times more evil than
the Japanese? Or is that the fact that it so much easier to get a gun
here that the murder rate is so much higher? How about the United
Kingdom? Population 63 million. The number of murders there in 2010?
619. What do the UK and Japan have in common? It is much harder for
people (including the psychopathic ones) to get guns.
 Anti 2:
I guess you guys didn’t see the three different shootings that happened in Seattle today…
Me:

The
way that the statistics are compiled is one reason. In England, a death
does not count as a homicide for statistical purposes until a person is
actually convicted of the crime. Also, in Japan, if you look, our non
gun murder rate is also higher. That is
mostly because of a cultural difference. If you look at Switzerland,
where every person is issued a machine gun with ammo to keep in their
home, they have a murder rate that is almost nonexistent. To me, there
are too many cultural and societal variables to compare one country to
another for determining the effect of gun control on crime. A more
useful comparison is either areas within the same culture with firearm
law differences, or a country’s crime rates before and after firearm
laws.


 Anti 2:
Guns don’t kill people, people with guns kill people, with guns.
Me:  
and people without guns kill people, without guns. Is this reasoned discourse, or an exchange of one line cliches?

Since
virtually all gun ownership was banned in England and Wales in 1997,
the murder rate has risen at a rapid rate, and has more than doubled
since gun controls were put in place. Considering the differences in
reporting methods, the rates are not
directly comparable between the UK and the US, but consider this: The US
murder rate has been falling since 1997, and the UK rate climbing, so
that the US rate, which was ten times higher than the UK rate in 1997,
is now only three times higher. This, despite the fact that the ‘assault
weapons ban’ expired in 2004, and that 49 of 50 states now allow
concealed weapons. The loosening of gun restrictions in the US has
actually accompanied a reduction in both violent crime, and homicide,
while increasing gun and knife controls has seen surging crime in the
UK.




Anti 2: You’re right, a person could
kill another person however they’d want but it’s easier with a gun.
People are more inclined to do something if it’s easier.



Me: 
 

there
is a flip side to that: Predators prefer defenseless prey. This is true
with humans, as much as with animals. A firearm is what allows a gay
man to stop a group of 6 homophobes from beating him senseless, a 100
pound woman from being raped by a 250
pound male, or an old woman in a wheelchair from being robbed by an 18
year old thug. but rather than address my facts, you would prefer to
engage in one liners and worn out cliches. No logic to your argument,
just emotional appeals.
Anti 2:
You’re being a dick
in your conversation, consider me out. Have fun with your toy and wipe
the saliva off your chin after you pull the trigger. Have a nice day.
They have nothing but personal attacks and worn out one liners. This is why we win.
 

Dominate. Intimidate. Control.

That is the motto displayed at the TSA’s air marshal training center. They appear to be living up to that motto, with their unconstitutional searches being expanded to city buses, highways, and shopping malls.

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson-Lee praised these violations of her
constituents’ rights with an explanation asinine even by congressional
standards:

“We’re looking to make sure that the lady I
saw walking with a cane … knows that Metro cares as much about her as
we do about building the light rail.”

See, if you
don’t support the random harassment of ordinary people riding the bus to
work, you’re a callous bastard who doesn’t care about little old
ladies. 

Money trouble

In 1960, social welfare benefits made up approximately 10 percent of all salaries and wages. In the year 2000, social welfare benefits made up approximately 21 percent of all salaries and wages. In 2011, social welfare benefits made up approximately 35 percent of all salaries and wages. Read more here.
While it is true that economic conditions are slightly better now than they were 5 years ago, they are by no means good, and much of the improvement purely exists on paper. The improvement is due in large part to the $5 trillion in bailout and stimulus money that has been dumped into the economy. Even so, foreclosures are beginning to climb, housing prices continue to fall, and the only reason why the dollar is stronger now than it was 3 months ago, is that the Euro is falling apart at a slightly faster rate than the dollar. However, we will soon join the Europeans, as the U.S. already has more government debt per capita than Greece, Portugal, Italy, Ireland or Spain.
When Barack Obama took office, there were 32 million Americans on food stamps.  Now, there are more than 46 million Americans on food stamps.
During fiscal 2011, the U.S. government spent over 454 billion dollars just on interest on the national debt.
But just like we are seeing in Europe, if confidence in U.S.
government debt starts to disappear the U.S. government could end up
facing much higher interest rates to borrow money. If the average rate on U.S. government debt only rose to 7 percent, the U.S.
government would be spending about 1.1 trillion dollars a year just on
interest on the national debt.
During fiscal year 2011, the U.S. government spent 3.7 trillion dollars but it only brought in about 2.4 trillion dollars. So if we were spending 1.1 trillion dollars just on interest, that
would be close to half of all the revenue the federal government brings
in.
Right now, the Federal Reserve
is manipulating the system in a desperate attempt to keep interest
rates down.  During 2011, the Federal Reserve bought up approximately 61 percent of all government debt issued by the U.S. Treasury Department. Where does this go? The Fed monetizes that debt. They turn it into cash, which causes inflation.

From Infowars:

Check out the following excerpt from a report that was just released by LEAP/E2020….
 Over the next four years, the country will be subjected to
political, economic, financial and social upheaval such as it has not
known since the end of the Civil War which, by an accident of history,
started exactly 150 years ago in 1861. During this period, the US will
be simultaneously insolvent and ungovernable, turning that which was the
“flagship” of the world in recent decades into a “drunken boat”. 


How do you think governments react when the country becomes ‘ungovernable’?

Safeway supports beating pregnant women

At least, that is how it appears to me. Ryan Young, a Safeway employee, saw Quyen Van Tran beating his pregnant girlfriend, and told him to stop. When he didn’t, Young pushed Tran away from the woman. The man was arrested, pled out, and was sentenced to three years’ probation.

Young was told at the time of the incident that his job was safe, but was then suspended without pay for several weeks, during which the police sent a letter to the company praising Young’s actions, and protesters managed to get a petition with 180,000 signatures sent to the company, after which the union was able to get him back to work at a different Safeway store.

It shouldn’t take a petition, daily protests, and union representation for a company to know that employees should not tolerate men beating on pregnant women.

No time for the Constitution

Sergeant Matthew Corrigan called the National Veterans Crisis Hotline for advice on sleeping because of
nightmares from his year training Iraqi soldiers to look for IEDs in
Fallujah. The operator, Beth, called 911 and reported Sgt. Corrigan “has a gun and wants to kill himself.”  He claims that he never threatened suicide.

In any case, what resulted was a SWAT standoff, where he was taken to the hospital for evaluation.The police then conducted a warrantless search of his home, causing extensive damage. The search revealed unregistered firearms.

Even if one assumes that he is lying, and did threaten suicide, once the sergeant had surrendered and was in custody, there was absolutely no valid reason for police to enter the home without a search warrant. Maybe there needs to be a law that bars anyone who is found in court to have violated a citizen’s constitutional rights from ever again holding a government job. Maybe that will stop some of the abuses.

House gun

So I put a Picatinny hand rail on my AR15, and I also added this rail mounted light/laser/grip. It is a 450 lumen white LED light that can either be steady or strobe as either momentary or constant switched. I got it sighted in at the range, and it holds zero pretty well.

Along with some 70 grain hollow points, this will be an effective home defense gun.

Decline and fall of empires

Many in the prepper community talk about the SHTF, the Zombie apocalypse, the end of life as we know it, whatever they call it. In these cases, they almost invariably talk about waking up one morning, and things have fallen apart. That really isn’t how it goes down. Societies don’t fall apart overnight, and looking at how the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, and now watching the European union, fall apart gives us a look at how things happen.
The Soviet Union spent years building up their military in the arms race of the cold war. This large amount of government spending was taking its toll on the productive parts of the economy, and the economy stalled. By 1985, the stagnation was obvious. The Soviet Union had been importing grain from the US throughout the 70s, because their own economy was not capable of producing staples. The central government was powerful enough, that change seemed impossible.
Eventually, the government could not maintain the strong hold that they had on the population, and cracks began to appear. In an effort to control costs, Premier Gorbachev became friendly with the US, and relations improved. A series of reforms was put in place that were designed to appease the population, but unrest continued. In 1989, the Berlin Wall came down. The military was upset that they were losing so much power and clout, and attempted a coup in 1991. The coup failed, and the Soviet Union collapsed, taking many of its satellite countries with it. The reason that the collapse that was decades in the making seemed to happen so quickly is that the government fought to maintain an appearance of normalcy until there was no fight left.
There are parallels here to the current state of the USA. Years of profligate, irresponsible spending have torn the guts out of our economy. The resulting tax burdens needed to sustain this spending, combined with the populist regulations put in place by bureaucrats, have forced the productive parts of the economy to either leave the country, or out of business. The small businessman has been regulated out of existence, and the large business has fled for distant lands. This has resulted in a country that cannot produce staples or maintain its standard of living, which has been falling for over 5 years. The central government is stable, so change or collapse seems impossible.
Cracks have begun to appear. The end of the US economy approaches, as the economic weight of our government’s excessive spending increases. The government will attempt to maintain normalcy, and maintain order and control, and this is obvious by the ever increasing police presence, government cash giveaways, and other programs. However, the spending required for these programs will only worsen the problem in the long term. The decline will accelerate as the debt climbs.
The collapse is near, and I believe it will be in less than 20 years, perhaps less than a decade. Decades in the making, to those who have not been observant, it will appear to have happened with blinding speed.

Zombie apocalypse

Here we go.
Naked Man Allegedly Eating Victim’s Face Shot And Killed By Miami Police.
.

I hope they shot him in the head.

All jokes aside, there is another link to the story here, and I want you to pay attention to the money quote:

Sergeant Altarr Williams, supervisor of Miami police’s Homicide Unit, said a man doesn’t have to be armed to be dangerous.

So to those who criticize Zimmerman for shooting an unarmed Travon Martin: try again to tell me how anyone is wrong in using deadly force against an unarmed attacker.

Blaming the victim

The internet news stories are flying. A woman gets drunk and breaks into a home at 3:30 in the morning. Confronted by an armed homeowner and given orders to halt, the intruder continued advancing towards them while shining a flashlight in the homeowner‘s face, and was shot. After she was shot, she pulled out a cell phone and made a call. The female intruder is taken to the hospital, where tests confirm that her blood alcohol was 0.2%. The woman was identified as Zoey Ripple, a recent graduate of the University of Colorado, who pled guilty to shoplifting in 2010.

ABC story here.

The homeowners are a pair of psychiatrists. The female of the couple was stalked by an unbalanced schizophrenic patient, who ultimately had a restraining order placed against her. They live in a $3 million home, and were sleeping with the door open, and a screen in place.

In the comments on these articles, many people are critical of the homeowners for a number of reasons. Among these reasons:
– They are just rich assholes.- This reason is stupid. The posters who claim this are dick bags who think that having money means that you deserve whatever happens to you.
– The intruder was just drunk and had no intent to commit a crime. -Since when does being drunk excuse you from following the law? and whether she intended to commit a crime or not, she did. What she did is a crime.
– The intruder was a pretty female. Ah, yes. We all know that pretty woman are never criminals.
– She was a “good girl” and helped organize a campus coat drive last winter and spent the summer of 2010 teaching English to children in Guatemala. She was also a convicted criminal. “Real” criminals usually don’t just begin their first day as a career criminal by robbing a bank, they start small. As the homeowner, am I supposed to do a background check before defending myself?
– The homeowners are at fault for leaving the door open. This sounds suspiciously like the “She wanted it, or she wouldn’t be dressed that way.” defense.

There are a host of reasons to not be so drunk that you do stupid things like commit felonies. She could have been robbed or raped. Instead, she chose to break into a home, and fail to heed the armed homeowner’s warning, and continued to advance on him while blinding him with a flashlight. From the homeowner’s perspective, he couldn’t see if the intruder had a weapon or an accomplice with a weapon, nor could he possibly know what the intruder’s intent or criminal history was.

This could easily be avoided if the girl had not broken into a house and charged an armed homeowner.

A tip to homeowners: Put a really bright flashlight on your home defense gun, so an intruder can’t blind you with a light of their own. Had this been an armed person, the homeowner may well have been killed.

Nation of Jailers

There are over 2.2 million people in prison in the United States, a number which represents 0.7% of the nation’s total population, or 743 people per 100,000. The US has the highest incarceration rate of any nation in the world. One in six of those prisoners is in jail for marijuana. That means that over half a million people are in prison for marijuana in the United States. 

Isn’t it time to either admit that the drug war is lost, or do we want to be more of a police state than we already are?