I missed a couple of days because of work obligations, and it appears as though I was too late to say most of what needed to be said about this video because other blogs beat me to it.
I do, as you would expect, have a couple of thoughts to add that perhaps others haven’t thought of.
This idea comes along all the time from anti-gunners- the idea that a militia armed with AR-15’s can’t fight a government armed with tanks, fighter jets, and nukes. The most obvious retort to this, is that this argument only makes the case that the 2A applies to tanks, jets, nukes, and especially MANPADS, ATGMs, and other heavy weapons. (If you don’t want 2A to apply to nukes, I am sure that you would have no problem getting an Amendment passed to that effect.)
No, the less obvious answer is that a militia isn’t going to be relegated to a confined field of play, as if war was some sort of spectator sport like football. The more likely continuation of the above video is that Staff Sergeant Jeremiah Walker leaves his bunker from a long day of shooting drone launched Hellfire missiles at NRA members like Andy Baker and gets in his car to go home. When he gets there, he discovers his 12 year old son in bed in a pool of his own blood, his throat slashed from ear to ear. Rigor mortis has already set in. His wife and 4 year old daughter are missing. In the girls bed is a note which reads: “If you ever want to see your daughter alive again, the next Hellfire you shoot needs to hit Senator Schumer.”
He refuses, and redoubles his desire to kill the entire membership of the NRA. His daughter’s body is found in a ditch two days later, his wife is never found. In his rage, the distraught Staff Sergeant begins randomly firing Hellfires into right wing neighborhoods, killing dozens of people, some of whom may actually have been gun owners, most were not. The father of one of those killed is the vendor who sells pork to the base mess hall. One day, about a month after the daughter’s death, the Staff Sergeant is eating in the mess hall when he finds his wife’s engagement ring in his pulled pork. Tests confirm that the “pork” is a match to his wife’s DNA. The butcher is never caught and is currently wanted by the FBI, who believes that he has joined the growing underground resistance movement.
Two weeks after the arrest warrant is issued, the FBI is distracted by another case at the Norfolk navy base when 140 sailors die after someone added a deadly bacteria to a shipment of lettuce that was bound for the USS Gerald R. Ford’s mess facility. The entire US military is ordered to begin eating only MRE’s or canned food manufactured more than 6 months ago. Morale plunges with food quality, and the government soon realizes that they have less than 90 days of “safe” food supplies for themselves, even after confiscating all canned goods nationwide. Citizens in large cities begin having food riots as most people can’t get more than 900 calories a day. The food just isn’t there.
Civil wars get ugly. Bosnia. Rwanda. Rhodesia. Kosovo. Even the American Civil War. The US civil war, as a percentage of the US population, was the bloodiest war in American history. In 1860, the US census measured the population at 31.5 million people. Six to ten million were killed and wounded. That means the war killed and wounded 20 to 30 percent of the nation. If a conflict with similar casualty rates were to occur today, we would see about 40 million killed and another 30 million wounded in direct hostilities, and another 60 million dead from disease and famine. With casualty rates like that, societies break down. Medical systems stop working. Famine, disease, and poverty reign.
The secret here is that the government is scared. Every senior government official saw exactly what we saw- nearly 400 cops being held at bay by a single teenaged loser with an AR-15 because they didn’t want to get “clapped.”
Then they realize that the nation has well over 100 million gun owners, many of them veterans, who like to see how fast they can shoot things that are as far as a mile away. For fun. They remember the two losers who shut down all of DC by creating a sniper’s hide in the trunk of a car. How can they trust a police department to protect them when the shooting starts? This scares them, which is why there was a division of troops airlifted into DC in the days following J6.
And before those on the right get too smug, don’t be thinking that the military will automatically refuse orders to kill civilians. History is filled with examples of militaries that gleefully slaughtered their own citizens when ordered to do so.
No, the most likely outcome of a civil war is for some people, and some military units, to take one side in the conflict, and others to take the other. Then there will be those who are nominally on one side while feeding information to the other. It’s the kind of conflict that starts with a few thousand and soon sees everyone choosing sides. Picture a US Civil War, part 2 where a third of the nation is dead or incapacitated within half a decade.
That’s something that is truly frightening to me, and something to be avoided at any cost short of abject despotism. It is also an outcome that seems more likely every day, because there are those on both sides that seem to desire it.
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Anon · March 22, 2023 at 8:57 pm
Yep -it would be a bad thing to happen.
Feeding the “sausage” to the troops is what happened in the Williamson Freehold stories.
Anon
Mark J · March 23, 2023 at 8:14 pm
Yep, the exact story is ‘Soft Casualty’. In that one, instead of the wife’s ring, it was a fragment of a soldier’s dog tag found in the sausage.
Divemedic · March 24, 2023 at 6:12 am
The idea has been done plenty of times. Southpark’s Cartman did it more than 20 years ago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Tenorman_Must_Die
Toastrider · March 22, 2023 at 9:23 pm
All it takes is someone deciding they want to cosplay as Michael Collins and it gets really, really interesting.
EN2 SS · March 22, 2023 at 9:59 pm
May I ask, how do we get along with the leftists that frequently and loudly speak of killing all that disagree with them? In none of the mass killing fields that I remember, has talking to evil ever stopped evils actions.
Ides Of March · March 22, 2023 at 10:05 pm
How many F-16’s did the Taliban have?
Slimy Cohen revealed that he paid the porn skank with his own funds with Trump never paying him back and that is why the brakes are on the wrestling chair kabuki.
Don’t get complacent, the CPUSA never sleeps.
They will find some trigger for the Big Boog, plandemic, no experimental gene therapy shot no job, bugs and pods, CBDC, by any means necessary.
Anonymous · March 22, 2023 at 10:51 pm
Not half a decade, half a year. Of course you have seen the youtubes of somebody who put a Glock on a drone.
I think we can see abject despotism from here. Consider what policies smart phones can be used to enforce, during an attempted lockdown/rationing/ghettoization after hunger from lack of production.
neomunitor · March 22, 2023 at 11:35 pm
The endless growth and corruption of the Federal government will never stop as long as they control the banking system and reserve currency, and the current politicos are all part of the grift, regardless of what BS they spout. Uncontrolled growth of the Federal government will be the death of the country. The rising endorsement of perversion and psychoses we currently see are symptoms of a collapsing social order. I don’t see a civil war (that would take a true alternative), but I do see complete economic collapse when the USD loses reserve currency status. At that point things will get spicy, with low tolerance for criminals, gangs and non-productive people. After all, the number one export of the US is weapons, followed by hydrocarbons, followed by parts for Boeings, and then not much.
Chameleon Camo · March 22, 2023 at 11:36 pm
Regarding the destroyed by design from within MIL-The stolen valor page has one about a major who called the police due to a woman’s Fakebook post critical of the trans false religion.
They are roasting and mocking and good on them.
Skid Marx · March 23, 2023 at 12:10 am
Esteemed CPUSA party member comrade commissar Billy Ayers says that 25 million eggs will have to get broken (liquidated) on the road to the egalitarian workers utopia.
McChuck · March 23, 2023 at 4:44 am
When it’s coming anyway, when your enemies are bringing in hostile replacements by the thousands every single day, what is the point of waiting?
neomunitor · March 23, 2023 at 7:03 pm
Good point. The sooner we start, the fewer hostile replacements we have to deal with, right? Since it is inevitable.
Joe Blow · March 23, 2023 at 5:35 am
I told you to get out of the cities….
There will be a bifurcation. Its the only aay.
Jmagine if you will a lack of law. I don’t mean chimps running around the inner cities with impunity like we have now, I mean NO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
Whats going to stop me from hunting every purple haired tackle-faced punk within my AO? For fun and sport I mean?
Whoops.
You see these ‘youths’ from the city on the gas station security tapes dump all 12-15 rounds with such bad wrist control its a wonder bystanders even get hit…. just me and a couple of my boys just sitting in my F150 on the street corner, whats up?
I think my little corner of the world is going tk be very safe, very quickly, if the chain ever comes off.
As with all the ‘stuff’ we’re seeing collapse in front of us in real-time, the left is all LARP, they do not live in the real world. They think Wakanda actually really existed and that there are 42 genders. They truly believe it, irrespective of all the medical information and research that came in the 5000 years before they walked this earth. They are special snowflakes, mommy told them so… Thats why they will not win. The laws of physics don’t give a shit about your pronouns.
What Toastrider said is the truth.
Don W Curton · March 23, 2023 at 7:42 am
Read up on Missouri, Kansas, etc. during the beginnings of the first CW. Posse’s openly riding about, avenging petty grievances under the banner of one side or the other. Small time robber-barons stealing neighbor’s property after reporting them to the union as being rebel sympathizers. People with no particular agenda being drawn to one side or the other based on the cruelties they see. It’ll happen again, it’s happening now.
Not too far down the road, this’ll be real. Don’t like the way your neighbor parts his big truck in front of your yard? Report him to the authorities, tell them you saw him get his NRA magazine in the mail. Once he’s arrested, offer the grieving wife pennies on the dollar for his antique Corvette that she’ll have to sell in order to hire a lawyer.
Yeah, it’ll be messy.
TechieDude · March 23, 2023 at 8:08 am
What can us normies do against tanks, aircraft, and the might of Uncle Stoopid?
Ask the Afghans, Vietnamese, even the Irish.
This isn’t a country of goatherds. And you’re right on point – .mil does very little, if none of their own day to day logistics.
And all those weapons are surprisingly fragile. Doesn’t take a whole lot to put them out of commission for a few hours. Then what happens? Where do the parts come from? Get them back from Ukraine? Yeah.
Joe Blow has a point as well. Contemplate what happens when EBT cards stop working, and there wouldn’t be anywhere to use them if there was something that they could buy. We have a large, indolent population that has no skills, nothing to barter.
It’ll get crazy. I live in Texas. We have a lot of Mexicans. The difference between LaCretia and Yolanda is, Yolanda is gaming that EBT, mostly. She’s more than likely cleaning houses for cash, her husband working any number of jobs. They don’t care for the darker of the indigenous population and probably won’t tolerate chimpouts at the end of the day.
Toastrider · March 23, 2023 at 1:33 pm
And mind you, that’s with a military that’s motivated and not hollowed out by years’ worth of spending on useless DIE initiatives as opposed to supply and maintenance.
Elrod · March 23, 2023 at 9:14 am
Those who have not studied it have absolutely no concept, however vague and unformed, of just how vicious, brutal and ruthless USA CW2 would be.
Everyone has a list; many have a means of dealing retribution to everyone on their list; some will actually do it, and they will not stop until either their luck runs out or they have exhausted their list. And those some have relatives and friends who will take up the banner.
Rule 1: There are no rules
Rule 2: There is no place to hide.
Smart people would do absolutely everything in their power to avoid such an event. Stupid people would provoke such an event.
We do not have smart people in charge.
If it kicks off – and I very sincerely hope it is “if” and not “when” – the initial actions will be Something To Behold as prophylactic protective measures are instituted: Your enemy cannot harm you on Friday if you kill him on Tuesday and include all his family, friends, associates and casual acquaintances in the deal and destroy any and all infrastructure he or they could use for support.
Those who have not considered it fail to realize how widespread the New Dark Age would be; The US economy would not just collapse, it would be non-existent, and every economic entity that has ties to, and any degree of dependence on, the US economy, would collapse as well, not to mention the Angry and Frustrated in those economies would take USA CW2 as a signal to Clean Things Up in their countries.
The sheepherders on remote mountainsides in small, obscure poverty-stricken countries probably wouldn’t see much change, though…..
Danny · March 23, 2023 at 10:59 am
While we ruminate on a second US civil war, the other major world powers are banding together. That is unsettling to say the least.
The liberal blowhards display a high level of smug ignorance. Jokingly referring to citizens vs. military is just another in-your-face taunt. The unmitigated taunting never ends. Or does it?
TRX · March 23, 2023 at 3:19 pm
Military have “rules of engagement”. Partisans don’t have any rules. Some old dude with a 7mm Remington and a nice scope will just take potshots from far outside their defensive perimeter.
AR-15s are popular now because CNC and mass production made them cheap. What people don’t realize is that for most of American history, the ordinary citizens have had better small arms than the military.
George Custer and his men at Little Big Horn were carrying new US Army rifles; Springfield Trapdoor single-shots. At least one of Sitting Bull’s men carried an Evans lever-action repeater with a 28-round helical magazine; some others carried Henry or Winchester leverguns.
Big Country Expat · March 23, 2023 at 12:13 pm
LOVE the imagery of the ring in the pulled pork.
Matthew W · March 23, 2023 at 12:30 pm
DUDE !!!!!
That’s a totally fucking dark story you told.
When is Chapter two coming out?????
Anonymous · March 23, 2023 at 2:54 pm
Wait, what? 6-10M people? While I agree with the *point* of the article, I’ve never seen those casualty-numbers. The most I’ve seen is 1.5M total casualties (600K of those, dead). https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/civil-war-casualties
neomunitor · March 23, 2023 at 7:02 pm
According to at least one source, if slave deaths were included, total deaths exceeded 1 million https://web.archive.org/web/20180119065611/https://blog.oup.com/2012/04/black-white-demographic-death-toll-civil-war/
Gryphon · March 23, 2023 at 5:07 pm
That’s what I’ve been saying for Years to anyone who believes that “You can’t Fight the Army with an AR-15. You don’t Fight the Army. You Fight their Logistics, and their Families…
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