There is a lot of talk nowadays about the so-called “boyfriend loophole” as they relate to red flag orders. I was a victim of a woman who tried to hang me with a domestic violence accusation. This happened back in 2014. In her complaint, she alleged:
- that we lived together (we did not)
- that I was stalking her (I was not)
- I showed up at her workplace (I did, but not while she was there)
- which led to her getting fired (It did, but not because I had done anything wrong or illegal)
She got my first name and my address correct, but had used the wrong last name*. The court granted her a temporary Domestic Violence Restraining Order.
Her legal complaint never alleged any violent act or even threat on my part. I was going to ignore the whole thing, since it wasn’t my name on the order, but my lawyer advised that we fight it to avoid issues down the road. So it still wound up costing me over $2,000 in legal fees. You can read about the entire story here and the resolution here.
Even though we could prove in court that she lied (I never lived with her, even though she said I did) there were absolutely no ramifications to her lies. Had there been a law allowing her to get a DVRO from a person she was only dating, I am convinced that I would be a prohibited person to this day.
There is no limit to the lengths that a woman who feels slighted will go to in order to get revenge on her ex. If it means lawfare, so be it. They will do it without hesitation.
* The last name thing is pretty funny. When I was on Facebook, I used a false last name, because I didn’t want people from my work to be able to read the politically incorrect things I was saying. She filed for the DVTPO using my fake Facebook name. (Shows how well she really knew me.) Anyway, she got the address and my first name correct, so a Deputy pulls up to my house and says, “Are you Dive Medic?” I reply, “Yes.” He hands me the TRO and tells me that I am under a restraining order and drives away.
6 Comments
y · June 21, 2022 at 6:52 pm
I am better off after reading just about every one of your posts, by being more knowledgeable about the world around me. I am worse off in terms of being almost depressed about how fucked up things really are compared to what I thought they were. But better to know the truth than to believe “whatever you want to believe” as Morpheus said in The Matrix.
Intellectually I knew a little bit about this, now I know more by having my nose rubbed in it. I have a friend who’s a family law lawyer and you echo almost everything he’s told me. It’s almost enough for me to ask for that blue pill instead of the red one.
Big Ruckus D · June 21, 2022 at 9:56 pm
Hear, hear! Bitches be crazy. And now the whole world be crazy, too. The last couple of years has made me ever more grateful I decided to stay single. It is a damned disaster out there, gentlemen. Watch your six, not only for the vibrant dieversity, but for vindictive women as well. I keep a very low profile these days so as not to draw any attention, especially from the crazy bints running amok.
And since I’ve not done it enough, a big thanks to our host for his efforts here. It is a welcome refuge of real talk from the fake and ghey clown world we wre stuck in.
Clown Shoes Loophole · June 21, 2022 at 10:16 pm
No consequences for false reporting and perjury in the best gynocracy Metaturd that the banksters could buy.
There won’t be any vote on WWIII either in muh democracy.
Reading about the Bipartisan (Uniparty) Safer Communities act at 2A page.
The domestic partner loophole is in it.
Fun facts-JoJo Brandon “wrote” large portions of the Patriot Act. (wink)
Don Curton · June 22, 2022 at 7:44 am
Yup. Back in the early 90’s I had a assault by contact charge against me (meaning I “touched” someone who didn’t want me to touch them). I won’t bore you with details, other than I did not do what was claimed. Of course, it was during a child custody exchange so falls under family law. Once I hired a lawyer and demonstrated that I wanted to fight it in court, in front of a jury, the charges were dismissed. It was a class A misdemeanor if I remember correctly. DA wanted me to plead guilty and pay a $200 fine. I spent close to $2000 getting it dismissed.
Fast forward over 20 years, I’m applying for a concealed carry permit. One of the stipulations is that you cannot have any conviction of family violence, no matter how minor (misdemeanors as well as felonies). Given that back in the 90’s those misdemeanors were tried in municipal court, and that the charges were 20+ years old, all records had been destroyed. There was no record that I was convicted, but there was no record that charges were dismissed either. The only thing still on record is a police report stating (incorrectly, I might add) that I was arrested. In reality two uniformed officers came to my door and served me with court papers. My CCL was denied.
It took me 9 months to finally clear that and get my CCL. I had to fight local and state court and police records, deal with the fact that two agencies that share the same building cannot share information, before I could exercise my right to carry. All because some simple minded politician didn’t think his “family violence” adder on the CCL law would ever be misused.
Red Flags will be abused beyond belief. Absolute infringement on our rights. And never ever accept a plea deal, no matter how minor, no matter how low the fine, especially if you didn’t do it. It won’t make your life easier to just get it over with and move on.
nunya · June 22, 2022 at 7:49 am
no consequences for perjury hmm just like that kunt blasey ford made up shit bout Kavanaugh or amber turd? the left will eventually get what they are pushing the right to do. we’ll see who comes out of it in one piece..or maybe we won’t.
Ygolonac · June 22, 2022 at 11:31 am
Back in the late ’80s, I was out of high school but still living at home with my mom and brother; we were renting the upper half of a duplex and had a variety of downstairs neighbors. (Like the idiot burglars, but that’s a different story.)
So I head out one summer evening to go hang with fellow nerds at a computer user’s group meeting. After a couple hours of bullshitting, it broke up and I headed off to the theatre to go see the second-run showing of Ferris Bueller. Get home a little after ten, and get *immediately* flamed because of the police.
Why the police? Seems the lady downstairs (who I’d barely said “hi” to over the course of a year or so) reported that I’d come by and peeped in (and masturbated on) her windows. Needless to say, I was completely stunned.
But, it turns out that having about eight folks vouching for me at the UG meeting, followed by using a movie pass at a low-attendance movie (and thus standing out), kicked a big hole in her story.
Never said fuck-all to her after that, but I later heard from other neighbors that she was a nurse, and an alcoholic, who got suspended at least once for showing up to work tanked. Might as could be that’s related…
(Especially as “I” was supposedly peeping in a *kitchen* window, one that was facing the street without any cover and visible to anyone walking or driving by, and for supposedly being spooged upon that window was awfully clean.)
(Not to mention that as a 19-year-old I had *absolutely* no interest in a pretty haggard 40+ year-old.)
So yeah, I have personal experience with people lying, and getting in trouble because they did so.
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