There is a woman in Michigan who is claiming that her neighbor, who lives 250 feet away and established his own shooting range, has made her go deaf with gunshots and T:annerite explosions.
I kind of felt bad for her until I saw this sentence:
LaRoe said she found a shell casing in her yard and points to a piece of tape over a small round hole in a window
There is no way that a shell casing is going to be 100 yards from a shooting range. So I decided to do some math.
The Occupational and Health Administration says that any instant sound (as opposed to a continuous one) that is above 120 decibels can cause hearing loss. Thanks to the inverse square law, in order to damage her hearing from 250 feet away, the source sound would have to be somewhere around 180 decibels. That makes his shooting range even louder than a SpaceX launch, which varies between 145 and 161 decibels.
Hearing protection only reduces sound by about 15-30 db. If it was loud enough to deafen her from 100 yards away, the guy who owns the shooting range would be deaf as well, hearing protection or not.
She and the neighbors are trying to get Tannerite regulated like an explosive, claiming that it is no different than dynamite.
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Trotsky's Pickaxe · April 10, 2025 at 6:02 am
The glorious peoples republic of Michigan?
CPUSA (D) occupied territory.
The Magic Soil fairy carried the shell over there.
Joe Blow · April 10, 2025 at 6:47 am
You have an anti-gun nut lying about evidence in an attempt to pin a crime on their neighbor.
Yes, it’s a total Karen move, but more importantly, illegal. There’s no way that shell casing came from one of his guns (probably a different caliber). She should be charged by the police with filing a false claim, and sued by the neighbor (inclusive of court costs).
… this is why I live on 15 acres out in the country. I’ve done the suburban home thing, twice. It has it’s place, and those that like it, hats off to you! But I’ll never live like that again. Ever. Single-wide tucked down at the end of the holler, I don’t care… People suck.
Gerry · April 10, 2025 at 9:24 am
We had a gun club situated about 2-300 yards from a small airport. One aircraft owner complained about the noise and a safety issue. The complaint fell on deaf ears (Pun intended).
A week later owner calls the police and said his plane has been shot. Police arrive and the plane owner hands them a 22 caliber cartridge. He claims that was what struck his Cessna. Police chief has him file a report and then has the joker arrested for filing a false report. Pilot moves his aircraft and the police drop the charges.
SiG · April 10, 2025 at 9:57 am
Are you sure about that SPL level? I think of a gunshot as a point noise source, and when you double the radius, you lose 6 dB. This breaks down when you’re close to the source because it stops being a point and acts more like a line source, dropping of at 3 dB per doubling. Starting at 250′ and adding 6 dB to 120 every time I cut the distance in half, I get to a pretty reasonable number for the shot.
120 dBA at 250′ would be
126 dBA at 125′,
132 @ 62.5′, skipping ahead to
154 @ 4’… which is probably inside of where it’s 3 dB/doubling.
All of that seems to be in the range for a gunshot and rather short of 180.
Divemedic · April 10, 2025 at 12:32 pm
Could be. I used a tool for it.
it's just Boris · April 10, 2025 at 6:54 pm
So … if he were launching Falcon 9s, think she’d be upset?
Tsgt Joe · April 10, 2025 at 1:23 pm
Even though the article mentions other neighbor complaints, this story just doesnt ring true.
Aesop · April 11, 2025 at 10:18 am
Countersue, with the stipulation that the entire summary judgement should be all legal expenses, and mandatory eviction for Karen within 7 days of initial judgement.
Make “loser leaves” a standard for all such neighbor torts, nationwide, and the problem goes away in about 3 seconds. Either you’ve got a legitimate court case, or you get a suitcase.
Legislatures should pass it and call it the Karen Relocation Act. Make it mandatory in any noise case where the plaintiff moved in after the source of the complaint, so that anyone bitching about an airport or other object of complaint there since generations before their arrival gets to do the Sucker’s Walk, and pay the defendant for the privilege.
Any such suit to one location after the fifth such suit by anyone mandatorily forfeits the plaintiff’s property to the defendant as part of the judgement.
It would also be funny as hell to watch.
Steady Steve · April 11, 2025 at 7:22 pm
I used to shoot NRA competition in Kenosha, WI when I lived in northeast Illinois. When the area around the range, which was privately owned, started to build up, the owner had the range rezoned so that if the local developers got it shut down it would become a State Conservation Area. That way the developers could never get their hands on it.
Skyler the Weird · April 13, 2025 at 7:01 am
I lived in a neighborhood in Charlotte that had a Homeowners Association but the developers of the neighborhood didn’t create it to have any legal teeth and most people ignored it save to volunteer for cleaning up the common areas. It was taken over by two Yankee Karens who thought it had the same power as the HOAs ‘Up North™’. They started issuing landscaping edicts and were very disappointed when everyone ignored them.
We moved out of Charloot to a neighboring county. I hear the Karens were still in charge when the neighborhood became a Section 8 dumping ground for former residents of housing projects that were torn down to build luxury apartments for Guppies and H1bs in an effort to make Charloot World Class.
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