This mental midget is claiming that it is impossible to deport 9 million illegal immigrants because it is too big of a job. I wonder if he believes that we can “confiscate” all 600 million guns in American hands.

How about we have a buyback? Anyone caught employing an illegal gets fined $10,000 per illegal, per day that they are employed. Make it so that anyone who knows of an employer doing so can file a qui tam lawsuit and is entitled to 20 to 50% of any fines collected.

Picture your average construction site- 5 illegals spend 3 months working 5 days a week building a house. A competing construction company sees this and files a lawsuit. The construction company can pay a three million dollar suit, which will net the suit filer an award ranging from $60-150,000.

The jobs will dry up overnight, and the illegals will self deport.

Categories: Illegals


Aesop · September 8, 2023 at 7:13 pm

1)Point of order: It’s over 13% over the U.S. population. It was 11M 30 years ago, and conservative estimates are 1M additional illegals arrive and park here every year.
That’s over 40M now.

2) You don’t have to deport them all. Start with one state. It could be any one, but let’s say Texas.
Start in the panhandle, ID checkpoints at the interstate borders, and work south.
That’s Monday.
On Tuesday, every interstate crossing from Texas into Mexico is backed up to the panhandle headed south.
Open both sides to southbound traffic.
Continue the sweep until you hit the Rio Grande.

By Wednesday, the same is true in NM, AZ, and CA.
By Friday, the exodus out is in full swing.

By the following Friday, 90% of the illegals are gone, and policing up the rest is accomplished routinely.

Any city or state offering sanctuary is legally besieged, and all funds and access to them is cut off. No one in or out, no food in or out. no funds in or out.

They’ll had their illegals over willingly in days, if not hours, and the officials who got them into that predicament too.
Charge those sonsofbitches with aiding and abetting federal criminals, prosecute them, and Supermax them.

Wages skyrocket, Help Wanted ads will be 20 pages in every paper, and the drain on the federal budget will halve within weeks.

Any administration could’ve done that much any time since 1970 with nary a peep from most of the country, nor the world community, because that’s how every other country has acted for millenia.

And I’d like world peace, and a pony, while I’m up.
We’ll sooner see pigs fly than anyone tackle this pseudo-problem, because all TPTB profit from it in one way or another, including both sides waving red meat at the idiot base, while never actually doing anything to improve the situation.

That’s been true since Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback in the 1950s, and nothing has improved since then. It’s changed, but only for the worse, by deliberate malign neglect, or the current active fomentation of the problem.

We’re approaching one of those “fourth box” times again, and this is why in no small part.

D · September 8, 2023 at 9:25 pm

I mean…how in the fuck do you even hire an illegal immigrant?
I run a business. The accountants have to keep track of every goddamned cent, and that includes payroll. They can’t and won’t cut a check to anyone until all the state and federal paperwork is done–and that includes an I-9 “Employment Eligibility” form which is sent (I assume) to some shit government bureaucracy for approval. I’m sure some people can and do fake those forms and submit them to employers…but are you telling me that the government doesn’t do anything with those forms? They don’t kick them back to the accountants if the person is an illegal immigrant? Or is this just them being happy they’re getting taxes from one more slave?

    Rick · September 9, 2023 at 11:49 am

    Starting in early 1990s, I made numerous reports to state and federal agencies about illegal aliens employed by certain construction companies. The only response to me were persons from a labor union threatening me.

    Circa 2005 I notified Tyson Foods that I will be reporting them to fedgov if they do not terminate employment of all illegal aliens.
    Tyson replied to say they did not employ illegals.
    I filed complaints to multiple agencies at fedgov, including photographic evidence and affidavits from current and past employees.
    Nothing happened. There were the occasional reports in media of very cursory EEOC investigations at Tyson, but nothing came of it.

    In 2010 – 2011, I reported to fedgov illegal aliens working on Fort Irwin. Nothing was reported, no follow-up or report of findings made to me or others involved.

    Government at the behest of corporate and Chamber of Commerce is at the root.

    Rick · September 9, 2023 at 12:03 pm

    D, you sweet summer child, your honor is greatly applauded but unfortunately terribly naive. There are multiple ways that businesses employ illegals and no one is the wiser.

    An employer keeps two sets of books, they trade in kind with the illegals, they pay cash only, they misreport to government. These are just some of the ways.

    Trade in kind may include the employer providing a shack on company property (running water and bathroom optional) with electrical extension cord run from the company office. Employer provides petty cash for food and beer – lots of beer.
    I’ve seen trucker camper shells or 8×10 tool sheds used as shelter for multiple illegals.
    Gov doesn’t care.

      Divemedic · September 9, 2023 at 12:10 pm

      The last time that my rental was open, we had a woman apply and I asked her why she was renting a 3 bedroom house by herself. She replied that she was tired of living in a small apartment, but a search of tax records indicated that she was married and the couple owned a large house and they owned a construction company.
      My wife and I surmised that she was looking to rent the place so she could stash her illegal employees in it. We declined her application.

Toastrider · September 8, 2023 at 10:54 pm

If you want them to self-deport, start taxing those cross-border wire transfers. Jose isn’t gonna wanna come here and work if he can’t send money home without Uncle Sam taking large chunks of it.

Vlad the Non-Impaler · September 8, 2023 at 11:19 pm

“Any city or state offering sanctuary is legally besieged, and all funds and access to them is cut off.“
So…what do you do when the feds are the ones offering sanctuary?
“Super max them” is a nice thought but it ain’t gonna happen.
We are well and truly fucked by O’buttslam’s third term.

    Aesop · September 9, 2023 at 12:59 pm

    It’s bad, but it didn’t start in 2020. Nor even 2000.
    We realized in about 15 minutes that if FedGov actually wanted to stop the problem, it’d take all of 15 minutes, and a snap of their fingers.

    We all know the surveillance assets available at the federal level, if they want to use them.

    So follow one group of 40 or so. Track where they go, who gets them there. All the cars and their owners, the safe houses and their owners, all the way to their destination and employers.

    Then, the next week, swoop in and roll up the whole network in one morning, seizing businesses, houses, cars, all bank accounts, all the illegals, all their aiders, abettors, and employers, and seize the businesses and all assets of the company and all owners under RICO.

    Wipe out a billion $$ operation in a week.

    Do the same thing in every state, until there’s nowhere to go, and no one waiting for them when they get here, and crossing drops to a trickle.

    The whole kit and kaboodle would be over in six months, and whatever was left would either self-deport, or get winnowed out for DUIs, traffic stops, etc.

    But that doesn’t happen.
    And the reason it doesn’t, is because UNCLE DOESN”T WANT IT TO HAPPEN.
    Because if Uncle did, it would, and that would be that.

    Once we realized that, the game became to be the biggest PITA in our sector, and under POTUS’ skin, and in six months, it worked. In one sector.
    We did what we did mainly with six guys, and a couple of supportive residents.

    It isn’t rocket science.

    But Border Patrol has 30,000 agents, and they never see 97% of crossers, because we saw how many they missed and never counted as “got aways”, 24/7/365 for five years.

    Look at reported apprehensions for any year.
    Multiply that number by 33.
    That’s how many get through every year.
    Along with the dope.
    Along with the cartel criminals.
    Along with the terrorists. (We routinely found Korans, prayer rugs, etc., along with discarded airline boarding passes into Tijuana and Mexico City Airports, with origins in Saudi Arabia and the Muslim world from Algeria to Pakistan.
    After 9/11.

    The new crop up is Chinese, Mandarin- and Cantonese-speaking.

    You guess what that portends.

    Da Lord tells me He can get me outta dis mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re fooked! Mahahaha!” – Stephen the Irishman, Stirling, 1297

      Divemedic · September 9, 2023 at 1:35 pm

      You and I are in complete agreement here.

      TRX · September 11, 2023 at 9:10 am

      > It’s bad, but it didn’t start in 2020. Nor even 2000.

      It started as a WWII Federal agricultural bill on August 4, 1942, to encourage Mexican laborers to come and work in the US. Theoretically the Americans they replaced were to go to the military or wartime manufacturing.

      While the program officially ended in 1964, the institutional policies did not, nor did the bracero workers all go back to Mexico. The “invited foreign workers” became pests nobody was willing to get rid of.

Big Ruckus D · September 9, 2023 at 12:13 am

It’s absolutely possible. Just not widely enough desired (or at all, really) by those who control policy. Hell, we could even outright revoke citizenship from people who don’t belong here, irrespective of whether it was previously granted them by “official means”. When have you ever seen a government promise that meant sweet fuckall, and couldn’t be broken with no recourse? Uh huh. We could do exactly that, if the testicular fortitude can be dredged back up from wherever the hell it disappeared to so many decades ago. Consider that naturalized citizenship paper work could be made just as worthless as federal reserve notes are destined to be.

But no, I expect the way this will go is that things will finally get so bad that hostilities over resources and living conditions reach a breaking point and war breaks out. The solution then is the same one history has offered up time and again: genocide (or democide, since in this case it is an ideology – namely, globalism, and it’s retarded bastard sibling leftism – both crossing almost all other identifying boundaries, that will have to be wiped out) with scores of bodies in mass graves. Honestly, at this point I have no fucks left to give about how many tens (or hundreds) of millions get wiped out, even if I’m likely to be one of them at some point. The present iteration of human endeavor is an abject failure, as is self evident from looking at the general state of things. Everything is in decline, and a shit ton of housekeeping needs to happen before anything has even a remote chance of getting better.

There is nobody with the balls and the will to force – or even offer up as a topic of discussion – any kind of framework for an orderly, semi-civil solution. Therefore, the alternative of chaos and unimaginable suffering will be defaulted to, as has usually been the case when these conflicts come to a head. And if a Hitler, Mao or Genghis Khan type figure does eventually emerge to direct this murderous energy, his handling of the situation will be the same – or worse – than that which I just outlined.

Really, humanity needs a large scale reset. We have bred too many weak, stupid, useless and dysgenic pieces of shit across every race and in every country (the weak men who create hard times). Does anyone actually believe we can continue to live with these defective specimens, or that they can all be reformed? I don’t. Should we seek to spare faggot pedophiles? Hell no, why handicap society with such dysfunctional refuse? Thus, when circumstances finally see fit to reassert some sort of equilibrium and sanity by wiping out the chaff, people will be begging for deportations, because they will suddenly realize they are well and truly fucked with no way out, except for meeting their maker, post haste.

I can only see that outcome as inevitable now, since all other possible means of resolving the situation have been taken off the table. No pressure relief valves will be allowed by the present ruling class. Violence will finally be resorted to simply because it has to be, there being zero willingness to even discuss less severe and unpalatable outcomes that could potentially avoid it. All due to the unchecked hubris of assholes who think they can remake humanity ala new Soviet man. In a sense, it will be remade, as scores are going to die either way, so whoever finds the stomach to wipe out their adversaries first will be most likely to prevail and rebuild in the aftermath.

And if the good guys do find the guts to go there, they need to have the resolve to really finish the job as an extinction level event, or when the smoke clears and the dust settles, they’ll be facing a lifetime of criticism, sour grapes and antagonistic bullshit from any remaining assholes who were spared. We are still living with the constant fucking guilt trips and extortion from the last time this happened, and that was 80 damned years ago. Why leave that possibility, when a thorough job ensures there are no sore losers and whiney cunts left to nip at your heels, and demand payoffs in perpetuity? But that is thinking ahead, and mankind has not demonstrated a strong propensity for doing that to much success, so I expect that’ll get all phuc’dup also.

Understand that I’m not even advocating for this outcome, I just consider it a foregone conclusion. There has not been nearly enough growth in human capacity not to fuck things up totally to avoid it. An orderly unwinding of the invading horde (and all our other problems that have fairly straightforward solutions, that are disallowed because they are “mean”) is preferable, though it cannot ever be even considered. Government is supposed to be the mechanism by which a crisis like this gets handled in a manner that doesn’t require all the ugly stuff I just talked about above. Yet there isn’t a single government in any of “the west” that isn’t fully sucking the dick of forcibly importing unwanted diversity and permitting unIimited invasion by those who are fundamentally incompatible with the existing culture and population. Nor will they even enforce laws against criminals now, preferring to give them wide latitude to victimize others, who in turn are disallowed from defending themselves under threat of ruination by the “justice system”. Since it is fully apparent the ruling class scum aren’t going to change course, and will actively seek the destruction of any who object to their complete inversion of civilized society, either the governing structures (and those individuals who comprise it) promulgating this garbage are deposed with extreme prejudice, and replaced with ones that will do an immediate 180°, or it continues getting worse…until it can’t any more. Then shit breaks, and nature takes its course.

So there it is: The ultimate black pill.

Anonymous · September 9, 2023 at 1:42 am

Why should I want the government to decide who I can hire? That’s bizarre. On the other hand, government should check the last ten years of tax returns for meaningful tax-paying before issuing benefits.

‘Wages skyrocketing’ means your cost to buy everything goes up the same amount, in order to collect the money to pay those wages. Full employment is easy — just have government ban the wheel. Or fossil fuels, which it’s trying to do. These decreases in production efficiency make your lifestyle shrink, and so does the loss of a large number of workers.

    Divemedic · September 9, 2023 at 8:42 am

    That’s the beauty of making it qui tam. It isn’t the government it’s a lawsuit with a jury.

    Aesop · September 9, 2023 at 1:06 pm

    It’s still a net win, because getting rid of them cuts government handouts by $3 for every $1 of lost production.
    Schools stop performing at Zimbabwean levels without 20 million non-English speakers.
    College tuition drops, because they’re desperate for actual students.
    All the illegal aid agencies dry up and blow away overnight, and any 5 current blue states flip back red in a year or two, and wobblers stabilize and return to hard red.
    Less traffic, less time wasted in congestion, fewer DUIs, fewer robberies, shootings, stabbings.
    The drug trade halves.
    The quick end of “Press 1 for English”.
    Squared and cubed.

    The game is worth the candle.
    We’ve tried it the other way, and that’s how we got here.

    poppi · September 9, 2023 at 6:48 pm

    This isn’t only about the economics; “anonymous” complains that wages for everyone will go up, prices for everything will go up, if we don’t have foreigners working at half price.
    This also about Culture, since foreigners tend to maintain their original culture rather then assimilating into American culture. We’re supposed to agree that all cultures from around the world are equal, that we must bend our lifestyles to accomodate them. There are certainly some good features of other cultures, and quite a bit of delicious food, but there are also horrible features like Honor Killings, genital mutilation, slavery (yes, there are foreigners who have slaves here in the US).
    I am saddened that “anonymous” reduces all human existence to pure economic terms, and feels that “productivity” and “production efficiency” are the best metrics to build a society around.
    He worries that “Deport them all” means ….roadblocks in communities around the country, being asked for “papers, please”… the reality is that there are NGOs like Catholic Charities that are bringing these foreign workers here, and those NGOs have the names and cellphone numbers of every one of them, as well as the addresses of wherever they’re placed.

Patton Was Right · September 9, 2023 at 3:23 am

But if we close our border and run off the illegal mexicans then who will bring in our meth and who will take our welfare and who will drive drunk the wrong way on the interstate and who will will live 20 guys in our roach infested trailers and who will fuck all of the 12 year old girls? There are some jobs Americans just won’t do, ya know.

Francis W. Porretto · September 9, 2023 at 4:31 am

While a full, determined purge of illegal aliens would be difficult, it isn’t beyond our abilities. What it is, just now, is beyond our will. “Above-ground” employers are part of the problem, but not the whole of it. The “I-9” initiative of the Eighties did have some curbing effect, but more will be necessary — and just now, the tolerance for illegal immigration is too high to get that “more” into effect.

Rob · September 9, 2023 at 5:35 am

Don’t forget gibs. No more handouts. Green cards included, no gibs for them either.

You must be a citizen to receive ANYTHING from government, including schools.

That and no more employment, they all self deport. No need for check points.

For the hard core illegals, a job opportunity is created for bounty hunters. A good price per head, delivered to the border. You came here with the blessing of Mexico, now Mexico can assist your return. Push them through the door at the border.

Noway2 · September 9, 2023 at 7:11 am

Hmmm, doing a house renovation now. Just occurred to me that every worker on the crews, including trades, has been a local white dude.

    TRX · September 11, 2023 at 9:19 am

    We had a new roof put on a few weeks ago. There were maybe 15 guys on site. Only the foreman spoke English.

    Granted, not all Americans are necessarily English speakers, but I doubt a whole roofing crew of Puerto Ricans wound up in Arkansas.

    An acquaintance worked for a concrete company since before he graduated from high school. He recently retired after 30-odd years. He had moved up to foreman for a while, but they told him he would have to learn Spanish or they would get rid of him. The company had changed hands enough times, apparently nobody remembered the pension plan they’d offered him as a teenager. He took it and walked away.

Matthew W · September 9, 2023 at 8:09 am

“deport 9 million illegal immigrants”
Ask Ike about that

oldvet50 · September 9, 2023 at 8:13 am

These are all fine plans, except remember the DOJ is suing Musk for NOT hiring illegals.

Rick · September 9, 2023 at 10:57 am

He claims ‘roughly 2.5% are illegals’.

Maybe as much as five yrs ago I tried to determine an accurate number of illegal aliens residing within the fifty states. The effort required tens of hours spread over a two week period. I then started anew about one month later.

In each case I determined 12 – 15% of the population are illegals. The upper figure was gotten by disgarding opinions in main stream media. The lower figure included all reporting except those originating from politicians and staff.

It is fair to say there were then more illegals than black citizens within the U.S. That was then; today the number and percentage of illegals is certainly higher.

Anonymous · September 9, 2023 at 11:34 am

The politicians will hyperinflate the US dollar. This hyperinflation will disrupt the mechanisms of tax collection. No taxes means government can’t hire employees to keep you from defending yourself from predators, and no welfare paid out to people who didn’t pay in. Then, whoever sticks around to live in North America will be producing more than they are consuming.

Paulb · September 10, 2023 at 12:15 am

I made the same argument as our host just this morning, talking about the issue. I have an insider’s view, as my wife was an illegal when we met, and my deadbeat brother-in-law is still collecting a couple grand a month in bennies and free shit plus comprehensive health insurance and full $0 copay dental insurance courtesy of the state of MA.
Many if not most illegals are still sending money home. They maintain a connection there and will never integrate, and will actively try to prevent their anchor babies and Dreamer kids from integrating as well.
Actions that cause self-deportation are the most effective, IMO. Targeting the deadbeat tax cheats and scumbags who hire illegals is the absolute cleanest way to go. $10,000 per day per person for knowingly hiring an illegal is a very modest fine, and reasonable, and would be effective. Illegals don’t take jobs from civilians. Scumbag citizen employers cheat and hire illegals. Trashbag consoomers consooooom goods and services from industries that hire illegals. Restaurants, construction, childcare, unskilled healthcare, cleaning services. If you use them, you are more than likely one of the trashbag cheats who is killing our nation, unless you actively pursue service providers who do not hire illegals.
I recently, and with a great deal of effort on my part, was issued a CPF, a Brazilian tax ID. This took well over a year of legwork, and consular vetting, and lots and lots of documentation. All this so I could have a checking account in Brazil to pay my mother-in-law’s medical and household expenses.
Why does the US allow non-citizen residents to utilize our small banking facilities? Most every other nation has restrictions on who can and can’t use their banks. Imagine the economic benefit of creating a sunset date for non residents to utilize personal accounts at our banks. Give them 180 days to conclude their banking services and anything else gets escheated to the state after.

Granted, this will never happen. Republicans AND Democrats want the cheap labor in exchange for the cheap votes. We can’t address the problem because those in power will NEVER change the problem. It benefits them too much.

    TRX · September 11, 2023 at 9:31 am

    I used to sell a modest software package. About 10% of my customers were outside the US. Most paid by international postal money order. Canadians always wanted to send a check, but the banks wanted a big chunk out of each one for their trouble. I opened an account in Vancouver by mail, and every month I’d send checks there. Once a year I’d make a withdrawal.

    Later I sold a book to a publisher in England. They mailed a check (checque?) drawn on the Royal Bank of Scotland. I used that to open an account there, also by mail, which turned out to be quite useful. That was back in the 1980s, before the Euro. RBS would happily take marks, francs, pesetas, or whatever, and they paid more than twice the best interest rate I could get locally.

    Australia, on the other hand, wouldn’t allow me to open an account by mail. I talked to a very nice functionary at the Australian Embassy; he said the law in Australia was that accounts had to be opened in person, and tried to talk me into going there for a vacation.

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