The left is all in a lather because the DOJ under Trump has restored the gun rights of 22 people who were convicted of felonies- including one they call a “fake elector.” The so-called “fake elector” was pardoned by Trump, so I don’t see how he can be a prohibited person in the first place.
The entire issue is the law allows for people who have been made into prohibited persons being able to apply to have their rights restored. Congress blocked the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) from using federal funds to review individual applications, citing the fact that the program was expensive and took dozens of staff to run. Since when do we judge how expensive it is to seek justice? One could easily make the case that supplying lawyers free of charge is too expensive and only serves to let criminals go free, but that isn’t how we operate as a nation.
This blog has long been opposed to the whole “prohibited person” category because we have redefined “felony” to mean some pretty silly things. For example:
- In Texas, it is a felony to own more than 4 sex toys (chapter 43). 11 of the 2,324 acts that the Texas Legislature thinks are worthy of being called felonies, making you so dangerous as to prohibit your ownership of firearms, have to do with acts that you can commit with or to an oyster. Here is the entire list of felonies for Texas.
- In Utah, it is a felony to go whale hunting in a rented boat.
- In Colorado, incest is a class 4 felony, punishable at the maximum by life in prison. If either participant is under 21, it becomes a class 3 felony. What does that have to do with gun ownership?
- In Montana, it is a felony for a wife to open her husband’s mail.
- In Florida, it is a felony to access WiFi without permission. There was a man who was convicted in 2005 of using a man’s WiFi without permission. It’s also a felony to sell oranges on the street near the beach.
- In Alaska, it is a felony to wake a bear for a picture
- In Georgia, it is a felony to allow your chickens to cross the street.
- In California, it is a felony to set a mousetrap without a hunting license.
- in Tennessee, it is felonious to share your Netflix password.
The reason that the left is pissed is because Trump is using the rules to his advantage. Pam Bondi is claiming that the underlying power to grant relief now rests with Attorney General Pam Bondi, not with the ATF, which neatly sidesteps the Congressional rule against Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) using federal funds to review individual applications.
Dru Stevenson, a law professor at South Texas College of Law Houston who has written about gun rights restoration, said, “The budget rider doesn’t say the federal government can’t do this. It only says ATF can’t. So this is a very lawyerly, splitting-hairs workaround.”
A law resulting from the Enron accounting scandal criminalizes the destruction or concealment of “any record, document, or tangible object” to obstruct a federal investigation. Prosecutors actually brought a federal criminal case against a fisherman under this law when he threw back 72 grouper to supposedly avoid being caught with undersized fish. Prosecutors were trying to convince the Supreme Court that a grouper is a “tangible object” under this law. This crime has a 20-year maximum sentence. In the highlight of the oral argument Justice Scalia noted the potential for 20 years and asked “what kind of mad prosecutor” would use that law in a case like this one? The government lawyer weakly responded that the prosecutors had not asked for a twenty-year sentence against the fisherman. The Court ruled for the fisherman, but the lesson remains: stupid laws and barely restrained federal prosecutors remain a danger to all who love liberty. So if you catch a fish that is too small, Federal prosecutors would allege that you did so to obstruct a Federal investigation, and you are therefore subject to up to 20 years in prison and a lifetime of being denied a key Constitutional right.
Two 16 year old children from North Carolina were facing a total of 14 years in prison for taking nude pictures of themselves and sending them to each other. They were charged with producing child pornography, transmitting child pornography, and possession of child pornography- of themselves. Each of these crimes is a felony, and would earn the children a lifetime label of “sex offender,” meaning that they would not be permitted to be near children, and could only live in communities that are filled with sex offenders. That is how we are protecting children, by convicting them of the crime of looking at themselves while nude, and then forcibly placing them in communities where they will live with actual sexual predators.
The most egregious part of this whole thing is that the law charged them as adults for taking pornographic pictures of themselves, who are legally considered to be children. This means that they are considered to be both adults and children simultaneously. We will call this Schrodinger’s pornography.
That’s why I remain opposed to prohibited person laws. If a person can’t be trusted with their rights, they can’t be trusted to live among the rest of us. I hardly view a person who took a nude picture of themselves being handed a lifetime ban of their rights as being justice, nor is it protecting anyone beyind the paychecks of overzealous prosecutors.
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dave in pa. · March 24, 2026 at 5:58 am
God. sounds like there a ton of really stupid laws on the “books”. but gets me is WHY ?
but like my Mom always said, if they want to get you, they find a way to do just that.
Mom didn’t think too high of lawyers and polecats as she called them.
James · March 24, 2026 at 8:51 am
I keep looking @ the 2nd where it states law abiding in the rights to bear arms(?),need to borrow someones decoder ring(which is probably a felony!).
ghostsniper · March 24, 2026 at 9:12 am
I have held a concealed weapon lifetime permit for 30 years and now live in Indiana where no permit is required but the last 5 times I have tried to purchase a new firearm the NICS has denied me “permission” and no reason is ever given.
So the last 6 guns I have purchased have been from private individuals. I sure would like to buy a Henry big bore but unfortunately when people buy them they never sell them. So I’m stuck, and I don’t know why. Other than a couple minor traffic tickets in the 70’s, I have no criminal record.
Steady Steve · March 24, 2026 at 7:41 pm
You probably have the same name as some felon. You’ll have to get a lawyer to dig through any federal records.
Wild, wild west · March 25, 2026 at 10:46 am
In many states, NICS check is not required for those having a CCW. I’ve held a CCW in my state for a long, long time and haven’t had to wait for a NICS check in years, just using the permit as identification is sufficient; I did that as recently as a couple weeks ago. We are “constitutional carry” here, so a permit is not necessary to carry but that’s why I retain the permit. So, either Indiana is one of those states where that procedure is not allowed or your dealer is doing something wrong and/or unnecessary. You might try yourself a different dealer.
Divemedic · March 25, 2026 at 11:06 am
Florida CCW is no waiting period, but still NICS check
ghostsniper · March 26, 2026 at 9:09 am
I tried to buy a gun at Bass Pro, Rural King, and big gun store in Indianapolis and all 3 NICS failed. Then I ordered an AR15 lower from Tombstone Tactical and it was delivered to a small local dealer. The NICS failed and he said the ATF has 3 days to prove the failure and if they don’t I get the lower. I got the lower (and built the gun). None of the first 3 gave me the 3 day wait option, never mentioned it at all. Since then the small dealer has retired.
As far as I can tell I have never requested nor received any benefit from any faction of gov’t but I have received a lifetime of hindrances.
JM · March 25, 2026 at 4:22 pm
I have held CCWs in 3 states, but it was Utah who told me why this was happening during the application process. It doesn’t seem applicable to you, but I’ll drop it here for anyone else to consider if it fits their situation.
I was being a dumbass in my early 20s and got arrested twice in one weekend (it was North LA, they will arrest you for anything.) One of the charges was a felony (I was waiting outside of the apartment I’d just moved out of, for my roommate, who knew I was back in town, to open the door so I could crash on the couch.) Go to court, one charge is resolved, the felony was dropped, because said roommate was ready to testify I was supposed to be there.
This being small town Louisiana, the court reporter (I’m assuming) messed up and forgot the whole “charge dropped” thing, which I was unaware of. So this sat on my record in NICS as an unresolved felony (how I passed background checks for jobs -and a TS security clearance! is a mystery.)
Prosecutor was dead, judge was retired. I had to pay an attorney in the Parish to certify that nobody from the city, parish, or state, were looking for me. Once I did that, I never had a problem with NICS again (in TX it doesn’t matter with a CCW anyway.)
Anyone remember the book, “Three Felonies a Day?” The average American commits 3 felonies a day unknowingly.
ghostsniper · March 26, 2026 at 9:14 am
I had a few traffic tickets in the 70’s and nothing since. At 71 years of age I’m not going to let this criminal gov’t steal any more of my life than possible. Though I’d like to have more guns I guess what I have is enough.
John Leidorf · March 27, 2026 at 3:23 pm
I would push back on this. You need to go to the nearest AFT office and start the ball rolling.
@HomeInSC · March 24, 2026 at 9:40 am
The legislators who create these laws and the governors who sign them are even worse enemies of liberty than the prosecutors.
James · March 24, 2026 at 10:28 am
Perhaps,that said,they all look alike in a green horse shoe.
SiG · March 24, 2026 at 11:01 am
I know there’s usually a story behind these insane laws but I really would like to know how Utah ended up with a law regarding “whale hunting in a rented boat.” Landlocked, almost entirely high desert, dry land, the nearest whale has to be a thousand miles from Utah.
If there’s one case in their state history, that must be where it came from.
Treefarmer · March 24, 2026 at 2:23 pm
I totally get the rented whale boat felony. Those bastards should get life sentences.
tfourier · March 24, 2026 at 2:55 pm
Someone who has been “committing felonies” in California here. For many decades.
On a point of information. It’s not only very legal but encouraged by CA laws to kill mice and rats. CA Health and Safety Code ARTICLE 3. Rodent Abatement – 116125. You are actually required to kill the critters. Which during one particular infestation about a decade ago when traps and poison did not work involved getting very up close and personal to terminate the little vermin. Big heavy history books wrapped in an old t-shirt to be precise. Those guys had no problems removing bait from traps but were slow and lethargic when cornered. One whack with a heavy book and they were history.
Lots of really crazy laws on the books in CA. But a hunting license for mice is not one of them.
Tom762 · March 24, 2026 at 3:24 pm
First off, IANAL!
But, as you said, and so does David Codrea, if I cannot trust you with a gun, why should you be fre to walk amongst us freely? Locking people away sucks. But when those folks prove to society that they cannot be trusted, it REALLY sucks to have them predation on the weak. Chuck Scbumer is the one responsible fkr the amedment that prohibits BATFE from doing the waivers/restoration, and we all know how he feels about LEGAL gun owners. Prior to the 68 GCA, there were no prohibited possesors. Oswald committed no crime.mail.ordering his Carcano, even though he had traveled to the Soviet Union a d did some hincky shit there. I am also.thinking thay Sirhan Sirhan was a Le to legal possess his revolver even though he was not a citizen. Unsure about that. Once again, IANAL! Pretty sure that the 68 GCA, 86 Huges amendment, and the Brady bill would not pass a legit Bruen challenge! Certainly not 34
NFA either! If so, then neither would a prohibited possessor be constitutional.
I do know that GOA and FPC, among others, is on this. It will take some time and political capital, and we ourselves may not see it, but eventually this shit will be fixed!
Fix the communists first! Then the chips may fall!
Tom762
Divemedic · March 24, 2026 at 3:33 pm
I agree, but don’t think full auto will ever return.
WallPhone · March 24, 2026 at 5:06 pm
Great points all, and also the point that felons aren’t the only category of ‘prohibited persons’ in the GCA.
At some point chasing curiosity, I saw raw counts for each category in NICS, contrasted with the number of denials of civil rights per category. It was an almost perfect inverse relationship with the largest populations being denied at the smallest number of (FFL dealer) instances.
Divemedic · March 25, 2026 at 12:48 am
I was a prohibited person. Actually, it happened twice.
I made a mistake when I told a girlfriend about what some crazy bitch had done when we broke up, and she decided it was a great idea a year later when we also broke up. Women use the courts as weapons without any consequences for lying.
SmileyFtW · March 26, 2026 at 6:32 am
Texas list is 404.
hh475 · March 26, 2026 at 7:15 pm
The big problem is that the distinction between “felony” and “misdemeanor” has become arbtrary and a little capricious. Most of these felonies should not be felonies. In fact, the Supreme Court recognized this in its famous Tennessee v Garner ruling in 1985. Tennessee had a law that said it was OK to shoot a person fleeing from a likely felony crime on the assumption that these were dangerous people. Moreover felonies were all capital crimes, so these people would likely die anyway. But the Supreme Court noted:
“Neither of these justifications makes sense today. Almost all crimes formerly punishable by death no longer are or can be. See, e.g., Enmund v. Florida, 458 U. S. 782 (1982); Coker v. Georgia, 433 U. S. 584 (1977). And while in earlier times “the gulf between the felonies and the minor offences was broad and deep,” 2 Pollock & Maitland 467, n. 3; Carroll v. United States, supra, at 158, today the distinction is minor, and often arbitrary. Many crimes classified as misdemeanors, or nonexistent, at common law are now felonies. Wilgus, 22 Mich.L.Rev. at 572-573. These changes have undermined the concept, which was questionable to begin with, that use of deadly force against a fleeing felon is merely a speedier execution of someone who has already forfeited his life. They have also made the assumption that a “felon” is more dangerous than a misdemeanant untenable. Indeed, numerous misdemeanors involve conduct more dangerous than many felonies. }
Laws that maintain this fiction should be suspect for the same reason…
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