The people in Maui were prohibited by the police from leaving the area. The ones who were forced to stay, died.
More than 1,000 people are missing or dead- many of them children- after police would not allow them to flee the advancing flames. If the people would have been capable of armed resistance, would the results have been the same?
People get the government that they vote for. That’s why I don’t feel sorry for the residents of Hawaii. They voted for a Democrat governor, Senators, Representatives, and have voted for Democrat Presidents for decades. Hawaiians: This is YOUR fault. Remember that on election day, assuming that it isn’t too late for your votes to matter.
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SiG · August 25, 2023 at 10:33 am
You know the saying that “to err is human but to really screw things up requires government”? I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an epic cascade of fusterclucks as Maui. Time after time they did the absolutely worst possible thing. Like stopping people trying to evacuate one end of the island to get to the other end and the entire line of cars burning up in the road. Telling a mother not to get to her home to save her child because they got him, and instead she gets home and finds him burned to death with his body protecting his dog.
It’s nothing but horror stories. I heard a talk about a guy who said he tried to get people out of the line of cars being kept from moving by the police. The fires are coming, he tries to get them to run but they were too afraid to get out of the cars and he watched them burn to death in front of him.
While I understand your point, I do feel sorry for the people. By and large, they were hoodwinked by con artists. They didn’t know what they were getting, they just did the “my parents voted Dem so I will, too.” It required and received no thought at all.
Big Ruckus D · August 25, 2023 at 11:57 am
I am blown away (though clearly I shouldn’t be anymore) at these incidents of mass compliance in the face of an imminent and obvious threat to life. And being burned alive has to be among the most horrifying ways to die imaginable. There’s a reason it has historically been a choice of tyrants executing dissenters. Joan of Arc, anyone?
It was one thing with covid, at least early on, in that the threat was invisible, diffuse and largely misunderstood. Playing on uninformed people’s fear to get them to obey stupid rules was easily successful. But for so many people to sit and wait to die in their cars, when they can clearly see the fire literally encroaching on them in real time, is such a failure of instinctual self preservation that it is incomprehensible to me. That they didn’t ram the road block, or a mass of them didn’t get out of their cars in sufficient numbers to overpower and kill the goddamned cop(s) blocking their way and then proceed unencumbered to safety, is a screw up so fundamental that maybe they didn’t deserve to live.
How clueless can someone be? Well, it appears we have our answer: hopelessly clueless when directly in the path of a clear and present danger with their own survival at stake. At some point, one’s life depends on making a snap decision, and if that means telling some official authority to fuck off and die to ensure you make it out alive, then that’s what you do for fuck’s sake. Or not, as we have now seen repeatedly.
All the people who returned to their offices in the WTC after the first tower was struck on 9/11 and then got killed for their stupid obedience, Uvalde parents denied access to the building to save their kids while they watched the pigs stand around jacking off in the parking lot, denial of actual care and drugs that worked (HCQ, Ivermectin, etc.) during covid, instead being left to die alone choking to death on ventilators, and now this. And those are just a few highlights, there have been plenty of other such examples.
I’d have had no compunction whatsoever about driving through the fucking pigs and making ground pork out them and their stupid roadblock under those circumstances, if not otherwise armed with something that would have eliminated them as an obstacle. It is inexcusable that so many people listened, and is proof in my mind that a large subset of humans are too stupid to survive. The fact these people – having witnessed similar interference from official authorities directly causing needless death in other crisis situations – still haven’t learned that you don’t listen to these cocksuckers when your life is on the line, tells me they are incapable of learning irrespective of how many real life examples are provided to them. Their minds just don’t work right, and never will. In a eugenic sense, the loss of people so hopelessly stupid is a good thing. Yeah, I went there. Fuck ’em. I’m done giving idiots a shot a figuring such obvious shit out. You only get so many chances to learn lessons like these, and if you fail repeatedly to understand the lesson being taught, you will end up dead for your lack of comprehension. Good riddance.
Tom761 · August 25, 2023 at 1:20 pm
Used to live in a “bad neigborhood”. Cops would have the streets blocked off on occasion. I would just go around them, many times an officer would follow me home. I would be told that I was jeopardizing my “safety”. My response was my safety is none of your business. If I need you, I will call you. Cops can block the road, so can I. Same authority. Drive around.
Same authority! None…
BobF · August 25, 2023 at 1:23 pm
“People get the government that they vote for. That’s why I don’t feel sorry for the residents of Hawaii.”
That’s a pretty broad brush.
I didn’t vote for Obama, but I got him. I didn’t vote for Biden, but I got him. Unless you have data that says everyone in Hawaii voted Democrat I think you are dead off target.
Divemedic · August 25, 2023 at 2:02 pm
I don’t need to know that all of them did. I know this:
Trump 34%
Trump 30%
Romney 27%
McCain 26%
In fact, the entire time that Hawaii has been a state:
– They have gone Republican for President twice. Reagan in 1984, and Nixon in 1972.
– There have only been two Republican Governors
– Only one Republican Senator, and he left office in 1977.
– Hawaii’s Second Congressional district, which Maui is a part of, has only ever elected Democrats.
I stand behind what I have said- they got what they voted for.
BobF · August 25, 2023 at 2:39 pm
Wow. Your data proves my point and is a great enlightenment. I never would have figured you to wish to sacrifice ALL Hawaiians because a certain percentage voted Democrat. “I don’t feel sorry for the residents of Hawaii.” By logical extension, you should feel the same way about all Americans, including Hawaii, because some voted for Biden and got us into the mess we are in.
Divemedic · August 25, 2023 at 2:58 pm
I never said that ALL Hawaiians should be sacrificed. I said, and stand behind it: I don’t have sympathy for them. More than 2/3 of Hawaiians got what they voted for.
In the case of all Americans- most did not vote for Biden, but we got him anyhow. And yes, it is our fault. We didn’t take stronger action when we could have, and now all of us will have to pay a much heavier toll than if we had fixed it earlier. So we are to blame, all of us, for where we find ourselves.
I fear that the price will be more than we are able to pay. If you are horrified by that, you should be
EN2 SS · August 25, 2023 at 10:53 pm
We are able to pay the price for what it’s going to take to stop the insanity. The question is, are enough of us willing to pay it? Sadly, I am not sure there are.
Rick · August 26, 2023 at 6:54 pm
DM, you said, ‘We didn’t take stronger action when we could have ….”
What actions would that have been?
Divemedic · August 26, 2023 at 7:30 pm
Well, there was the 16th and 17th Amendments for starters.
noway2 · August 25, 2023 at 4:03 pm
When I read the blog post, the first thing that came to mind was the documentary, “High Water” about the flood in Wroclaw Poland (https://www.wroclaw.pl/en/the-flood-of-1997-25-years-after-the-disaster-that-hit-wroclaw-and-surrounding-areas). In one scene, the “officials” wanted to blow the level which would have destroyed the town in an attempt to stave off flooding elsewhere. They sent in their team with the cops dressed up in their riot gear and faced off against the protesting population. When the cops started beating their batons on their shields in an attempt to intimidate the crowd, the people bum rushed the cops, plowing them over. The scene of the cops getting bent backwards, pushed over, trampled and beaten brought a smile to my face. I think that was one of the best scenes in the movie.
The cops are not your friends. They are not there to protect you, defend you, or your rights. They are the tax funded mercenaries of the politicians. They are your enemy,
Bear in Indy · August 25, 2023 at 7:01 pm
Another reason why the left/Marxists/Communist, oh I meant to write, Domorats, want our guns.
As has been shown: “We the People,” are their slaves.
Bear in Indy
wojtek · August 25, 2023 at 11:55 pm
I was there on Wednesday, July 9th.
The scene you’re talking about is only a tiny part of the story. Over the period of 2 days government, local government, and Wroclaw officials were trying to pay people from 2 villages with a total of a few hundred inhabitants, to have their properties flooded to save the city of 700K. Every farmer received a check “en blanco” to fill out. They refused. So it was on the last day that they tried to force things through, but the explosives they used were not strong enough. Still half of their parish was flooded plus the whole city.
This was one of the examples of what’s worst in our people. Though the tv series presented things in a different light, at the time the public opinion was entirely against these villages.
Interestingly, the city fell down to the flooding not because the water spilled over the levees and dams that people built over the period of 3 days in Wroclaw. These stood up. The water found its ways through old, no longer used, sewer tunnels.
neomunitor · August 26, 2023 at 8:23 am
“The cops are not your friends. They are not there to protect you, defend you, or your rights. They are the tax funded mercenaries of the politicians.”
This is exactly the state of the civilized world today. I would add that those mercenaries have qualified immunity that puts them a level above the rest of us, and that they routinely lie to protect each other and their testimony is given credence when it should, in fact, be ignored *because* they have been proven to so often lie to achieve the objectives of their masters or to protect their own.
grumpy51 · August 25, 2023 at 8:03 pm
I am French Canadian….before the Seven Years War. Took the offspring to Jean Lafitte NP in LA. We watched a film (re-enactment obviously) as the British soldiers forced the French farmers onto ships. I asked the offspring (3rd grade at the time) what they noticed. They replied “the ones with guns pretty much control those who don’t”……. Out of the mouths of babes….
No Room For Commie · August 25, 2023 at 8:15 pm
There is a video of a couple of cars going around the obstacle and the donut molester minions just stand there while bystanders flip them off and yell out curse words.
This is the way.
jacknife · August 27, 2023 at 3:06 pm
a lot of cops asking to get buried now.
Just wait until the next lockdown fraud. These pig a-holes are going to get very violent with anyone not wearing a mask etc.
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