This morning, I saw a stary about how the Democrat party in Florida is being torn apart. The problem is this- there are two factions in the Democrat party. On the one side, you have the hardcore left. They want full on communism, they want the woke agenda- including trannies chasing after kids while wagging their dicks at them. On the other side of the party, you have the party base- they are the people who want the government to care for them without being too overbearing. They want to raise their kids. The base is largely patriotic, and even if me and my readers don’t agree with them, we really aren’t that different from one another.
The two sides don’t see the same things when they look at America, and it’s tearing the party to pieces. The hardcore left is leaving Florida because the mainstream Democratic party isn’t far enough to the left. This group is headed to Washington, California, Massachusetts, the lefty bastions.
The same thing is happening to the Republicans. The establishment Republicans, represented by the likes of McCain, Romney, and other Socialist Republicans are staying put in the lefty bastions. The more rightward leaning of the party is headed to places like Texas and Florida.
This perfectly explains what is happening to our voting patterns.
The left often says that, “If the founding fathers could have seen all of today’s crime, they never would have ratified the Second Amendment.” I hear that all of the time from the antigun side, and I agree with them.
The entire reason that the Second Amendment, or the rest of the Bill of Rights, exists is that some states refused to sign the Constitution. The early opponents of the Constitution, the “Antifederalists,” demanded that the Constitution contain a Bill of Rights that explicitly guaranteed that individual rights were protected and liberty remained with the people. The pro-Constitution “Federalists” like James Madison and George Washington viewed such a Bill of Rights as unnecessary and feared that any rights neglected might permanently deprive people of those rights.
They were both right.
Among the opponents was George Mason, a delegate from Virginia. George Mason countered that a national, consolidated government would overburden Virginians with direct taxes in addition to state taxes, and that government of an extensive territory must necessarily destroy liberty. He nailed that one.
So today, we see that the nation is polarized because the national government is no longer representative of the people that it is attempting to govern. We see it in the patterns that have emerged since 2020, the ones I pointed out, above.
This was caused by the one thing that Madison, Mason, Washington, and all of the others simply overlooked. It’s the issue that was the underlying cause of the Civil War, and one that the war didn’t really settle: Can a state, once it has been admitted to the Union, withdraw? There is no process outlined in our founding documents that states no, yet there is no process that outlines how it would be accomplished, either.
It has long been my opinion that, had the Virginia delegates known at the time that joining the Union was irrevocable, they would never have done so, and the Bill of Rights would never have existed. Instead, we are faced with the question once again, as it was never really resolved by the last Civil War.
As this nation becomes more polarized, we will once again debate the question. It will be far bloodier than the last time, unless we can agree that maybe it is time that we go our separate ways.
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Will · March 1, 2023 at 6:49 pm
The left often says that, “If the founding fathers could have seen all of today’s crime, they never would have ratified the Second Amendment.” I hear that all of the time from the antigun side, and I agree with them.
Please explain your statement. An armed society is a polite society.
Divemedic · March 1, 2023 at 7:42 pm
As I said in the post, if the founders had seen what the country would become, the delegates would never have ratified the Constitution at all. George Mason was vehemently opposed to the entire idea because he felt that a central government would become too powerful.
Will · March 1, 2023 at 8:16 pm
If congress had not delegated so much authority to the executive branch, the government would not have the power that it does. A lazy congress has given away its power and the power of the people.
Aesop · March 1, 2023 at 8:08 pm
“Go our separate ways“.
Okay. How well did that work out last time?
We didn’t leap straight from 1789 to 2023.
Undo direct election of senators, and the income tax, and you’re 2/3rds of the way to getting your country back.
Repeal suffrage granted in the 19th Amendment, and Wilson would have been the last Democrat ever elected in U.S. history, and probably evermore.
You can tinker with a mechanism all you want, but you’ve got to own it when you break a finely-tuned machine because you Bubba’ed it all up.
When you’ve charged into a field of thorns, the first step out is to stop, turn around, and go back the way you came until you come to clear ground.
A distant second option is to start chopping off your arms and legs until you’ve gotten free.
I vote for trying Plan A before we go to Plan B.
YMMV.
Divemedic · March 1, 2023 at 9:02 pm
The point here is this: You have a part of the country that wants free college, free housing, free abortions, and free everything else. They want no guns, drag shows for children, and sex with kids, they want, they want, they want. They won’t stop until they get what they want.
How does “tweaking” or “tinkering” the Constitution fix that?
Aesop · March 2, 2023 at 4:10 pm
And people in Hell want ice water, but it’s not a democracy there, either.
“Tinkering” puts all the people who vote for that nonsense, and the judges appointed who tolerate it, back on the curb, helpless. Imagine a world where Joe Biden couldn’t even get on the school board, and the Clintons were doing 40 to life in prison since the 1970s. Where FDR never got elected president even once.
The ship isn’t sinking because there are holes in the hull, nor because the boat was defective.
It’s sinking because you put someone behind the wheel who drove it straight up onto the rocks at full speed, backed up, and rammed it in again harder. After cutting the ropes and dropping all the lifeboats miles back.
Breaking it up now just gets you 50 (or more!) mini-dictatorships.
Fixing the f**k-ups gets you back America circa 1900.
I know which of those two versions of reality I’d rather live in.
Divemedic · March 2, 2023 at 4:19 pm
Lol. And just how are you going to accomplish this?
Anonymous · March 2, 2023 at 1:08 am
It’s a lousy mechanism; it failed to do its advertised job of limiting government, and it failed because it’s full of privilege escalation bugs. Now instead of fixing it, you want to reboot it, so our descendants can suffer through it all over again. The US Constitution is a written description of the British government of the time, except that multiple noble families may supply a king. The Founding lawyers want a copy of the British government, so they can be the new American aristocracy.
Danny · March 2, 2023 at 5:43 pm
Yep – read you loud and clear. They weren’t and aren’t all lawyers, however.
Elrod · March 2, 2023 at 2:12 am
I do not disagree that some sort of national separation makes logical sense, the gulf between “them” and “us” is far too wide to be bridged; there is no part of people who want sex with children, or those who merely tolerate it, that is salvageable, and that issue is just one among very many.
But….the Lines of Separation cannot follow existing state boundaries and still be successful; western New York is radically different from the southeastern corner of the state, Asheville is to western North Carolina as Austin is to Texas, Northern Virginia and the southeastern coastal region are poles apart from Virginia west of Richmond, eastern Colorado is dark blue surrounded by deep red, and so on.
How do we reconfigure state lines to accommodate the radical differences within a state? Or, do we condemn “fellow countrymen” statewide to the purgatory of blue domination in a few high population counties?
Then there’s the issue of “the gift” – the Blue people did not build what they have, most are not even capable of maintainng it, so why should we hand over that blood and treasure gratis?
And, does it make sense to allow a hostile national force adjacent? A hallmark of the Left is they never, ever stop trying to expand and take over what they have not yet conquered, what expectation of “peaceful coexistence” should we have with those kind of people? We think alien invasion from the southern border is intolerable now, what will we do about the constant attempts at subversion and invasion we would face from blue states right across the river?
Aesop wrote above that repealing 3 amendments (16th, 17th and 19th) would solve many of our problems, and someone recently mentioned that had Congress rigourously performed its Constitutionally-mandated duties regarding passage of laws, most of the Executive branch – the massive administrative state apparatus in Washington, D.C. – would not exist.
It seems most of our problems are self inflicted wounds. The issue facing us today is how do we correct those errors?
I understand the idea of Separation, and it certainly sounds… attractive… but I strongly suspect this is something that will require blood, and, quite probably, lots of it, to resolve.
Bluey · March 2, 2023 at 4:22 am
Funny, when Australia was federated they took inspiration from the US constitution, but stuck with a UK Westminster system and very very few rights in the constitution.
It’s taken about a hundred years to have courts rule we don’t even have the rights specified in the constitution (not the high court. Yet.)
Covid showed exactly where those assumptions lead.
Felony trespasser · March 2, 2023 at 5:40 pm
Good post and timely as well. The Balkan countries separated after warfare and upheaval. Will it be any different if the United States becomes the Divided States?
Regarding holding off those who are “across the river” that would be a relief. As it is now everyone is not knowing what to expect.
We all want to know where the boundary lies. And now there are no real, defined boundaries in the “United States.” Someone please change my mind.
EN2 SS · March 2, 2023 at 9:04 pm
To me, the schism in the demoncrat party is exactly the same as in islam, the moderate towelheads want to watch/help the radical towelheads kill unbelievers.
JaimeInTexas · March 3, 2023 at 8:32 am
That which is not expressly delegated, or ceded, it is retained.
FedGov has no authority to stop a State from seceding .. except by war.
The agent has become the principal.
The slave has become the master.
The only way to maintain unity among such different peoples is by force.
The issues raised then (1861) were to raised again, in different time and manner.
Divemedic · March 3, 2023 at 9:15 am
Yes. To use force in keeping states in a union is to guarantee that they will eventually rebel.
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