A leftie made an appearance in the comments section here at Sector Ocho. He made some claims that I want to address. This post is an attempt to educate, not engage in personal attacks. Perhaps this poor, misguided leftist has good motives, but simply isn’t aware that he is mistaken. This will either set him straight, or prove that he is a partisan hack. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt for now, and simply assume that his is uninformed, rather than being willfully deceptive. His claims will be in red. So here they are, along with my response:

Putin helped Trump defeat Clinton

As far as the “Russian collusion” hoax, that has already been proven to have been instigated by agents of the HRC campaign. Further, the FBI and the news media KNEW that it was a false claim, but chose to bury the story.

The Left screamed when Trump defeated Clinton… But other than lawsuits and impeachment hearings, not too much violence.

Unless you count the violence that occurred in Portland during Trump’s election campaign in 2016, where 113 people who would later become associated with Antifa were arrested for causing a violent riot there and in Sacramento.

Or the riots that occurred in New York, Seattle, DC, and Portland during Trump’s 2017 inauguration. In DC alone, over 200 people were arrested for taking part in the violence. According to CNN, “Bursts of chaos erupted on 12th and K streets as black-clad “antifascist” protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk.”

In February, leftist protesters started a violent clash while opposing Milo Yiannopoulos making an appearance at US Berkeley, doing more than $100,000 in damage. Two Young Republicans were severely beaten and had to be hospitalized. The attackers, who were not affiliated with the university, were taken into custody by UC Berkeley police.

Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held.

At least six people were injured. Some were attacked by the agitators – who are a part of an anarchist group known as the “Black Bloc” that has been causing problems in Oakland for years, said Dan Mogulof, UC Berkeley spokesman.

March saw more leftist initiated violence. Again in Berkeley, the Black Bloc again attacked people attending a Trump rally. A group of self described Antifascists were responsible.

It happened in April, again in Berkeley. Antifa again attacked Trump supporters.

A May Day rally in Portland, Oregon, descended into chaos when the “anti-fascists” showed up, attacking police officers and setting fires. The same day, police in Olympia, Wash., say they were confronted with a “mob” of masked and violent protesters who threw rocks and used slingshots to target officers.

In June of 2017, there was James Hodgkinson, who engaged police in a ten minute gun battle when he tried to gun down the Republican Congressional baseball team while they were practicing for the annual charity baseball game.

The deadly attack at the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville happened in August. The man who carried out the attack was sent to prison for life plus 419 years. Antifa again responded by attacking attendees at another Trump rally.

The Right screamed when Biden defeated Trump.

That has been blogged about in numerous places. I will let the post of Larry Correia speak volumes.

And their response was to ‘take a peaceful tour of the Capitol’, right?

No less peaceful than the “peaceful protests” of the summer of 2020.

Most (not all) of the violence has been performed by your side.

I think that the selected violence from 2017 that I have illustrated in this post shows that you are mistaken. In addition, don’t forget the 400 or so armed leftists that occupied a city block in Portland, using force and refusing to obey court order to vacate a house when the tenants refused to leave the property.

There is also CHAZ (CHOP), AFAC, and numerous other armed groups that have openly declared war on the right.

If the Left begins the next ‘Civil War’, as you call it, I would dare say it was instigated by the Right.

I would argue that the Civil War has already begun, and it was started by violent acts perpetrated by those on the left. It could be argued that the first shots in the second American Civil War have been fired, but that will be a question better left for the historians in some future decade.

It’s just that the right hasn’t gotten sufficiently pissed off to fight back yet. Remember that the right owns 400 million or so firearms, along with several billion rounds of ammunition. We go out on the weekends and shoot at stuff because we think it is fun to see how accurate we can be, how far away we can still punch holes in things. There are those on the right who can hit man sized targets at over a mile. I don’t consider myself to be an exceptionally good shot, and I can reliably hit man sized targets at several hundred yards. We just aren’t pissed off enough yet.


11 Comments

TCK · May 22, 2022 at 12:26 pm

Fleeing for your life from armed terrorists trying to murder you in cold blood is not an ‘attack.’ The fact that the victim is spending life in prison while not a single one of his attackers (several of whom PUBLICLY BRAGGED about trying to MURDER HIM IN COLD BLOOD) was even charged says everything anyone with half a braincell needs to know about liberals and what they stand for.

Hmmm, subhuman demonrat filth getting off scot free after committing murder or attempted murder? That sounds kinda familiar…

Other than that, great round info round up.

it's just Boris · May 22, 2022 at 1:13 pm

Only comment I would make is one of style…

Both the links and the original comments are in red. Differentiating them (e.g. bold-face the quotes from the comment) would be a thought.

Other than that, thanks for the synopsis; this is going in the bookmark folder for later reference.

EN2 SS · May 22, 2022 at 1:56 pm

Yet, is correct.

Beans · May 22, 2022 at 2:39 pm

I’ve experienced this on other blogs. One in particular was some leftist jackwagon complaining about right-wingers labeling left-wingers as violent.

I did a multiple listing of all the political assassinations, school mass murders, shootings, hackings, bombings, attacks on homosexuals and others, and all of it, from the guy who shot Lincoln to the guy who shot Teddy Roosevelt to the guy who blew up a school to the, to the, to the, all being very violent leftists.

I asked said leftist jackwagon to point out one right-winger engaged in a terroristic shooting that wasn’t being attacked first.

Crickets.

Oh, I’m sure there are some. But not the Texas Clock Tower shooter, nor any of the presidential assassins, nor any of the bombings, nor any of the…

Michael · May 22, 2022 at 3:29 pm

A few modest thoughts

“Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”
― Robert Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

“Time is your total capital, and the minutes of your life are painfully few.”
― Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

“The correct way to punctuate a sentence that states: “Of course it is none of my business, but — ” is to place a period after the word “but.” Don’t use excessive force in supplying such a moron with a period. Cutting his throat is only a momentary pleasure and is bound to get you talked about.”
― Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

But sometimes a sharp blade cures a lot of issues.

And finally

“Never tease an old dog; he might have one bite left.”
― Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

I need to sharpen my kindling hatchet, Winters coming

joe · May 22, 2022 at 3:49 pm

don’t forget that most of us patriots have jobs and take our responsibilities in society seriously, to do the right thing…we work hard and play hard…we don’t have time to burn, loot, and murder but know this leftards…when the time comes, we will play to win…we will do unspeakable things and still sleep at night…

Don Curton · May 22, 2022 at 4:53 pm

Had a guy at work, fairly new to the plant but roughly 35 years old. Came into my office one Friday afternoon as work was winding down and started a conversation. Apparently he had overheard me talking to another coworker about something political (that coworker and I are both 50+, common sense, and conservative). In any event, the new guy described himself as “moderate”, “middle of the road”, “champion for compromise”, “champion for moderation”, etc. Carried on this long conversation (no matter how I tried to end it) about how he felt 90% of the violence and violent rhetoric came from the conservatives. How the left had it’s idiots too, but was much more sedate. How the left was more, hmmm, intelligent and willing to work for compromise, but that the right was simply too dug into it’s conspiracy theories to ever meet in the middle. How if people like me were more open to conversation and peaceful compromise, the nation wouldn’t be so divided.

I really didn’t care to talk to him (for other reasons, he ain’t much of a worker and I hate that). But every time I pointed out violence from the left he either blamed it on media propaganda (the media is just a shill for Trump – REALLY? Motherfucker!) or else it was a right-wing set-up.

He couldn’t understand how an engineer (inference someone intelligent) could be right-wing. Now this was at a chemical plant in South Texas. Hell, 90% of the staff is hard core conservative. JFC. He had no idea. But still, typical leftist thinking he’s a moderate and everything bad is cause of the right wing. Regardless of evidence.

In any event, those people would stare at the nuclear blast, see the shock wave traveling toward them, and think “this is really going to affect the LGBTQRFLMOP group the worst”. All idiots. All of them.

Oh yeah. The new guy. Muslim. Big time. Wants to talk about his life experiences in the middle east. Seriously? Please go back there. Anytime. I’ll help pay airfare. A Muslim pretending to be moderate.

Noah Was A Knower · May 22, 2022 at 5:04 pm

Time is too short to attempt to help duped dullards or true believers.
If you are not awake now than you are not meant to be.
Many hardcore CPUSA family members are gone to me and when the hybrid Helter Skelter Civil War gets going, I won’t hesitate to make good commies.

D · May 23, 2022 at 3:15 pm

Someone once told me something that I’ll probably misquote slightly:

The left treats violence like a volume knob. They adjust it up and down as their needs dictate. Don’t like who’s in power, turn up the violence. Got your guy in, turn it down a bit.

The right treats violence like a light switch. There is no “half on”.

    AuricTech · May 24, 2022 at 9:45 pm

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    A friend of mine who is a political activist said something interesting the other day, and that was for most people on the left political violence is a knob, and they can turn the heat up and down, with things like protests, and riots, all the way up to destruction of property, and sometimes murder… But for the vast majority of folks on the right, it’s an off and on switch. And the settings are Vote or Shoot Fucking Everybody. And believe me, you really don’t want that switch to get flipped, because Civil War 2.0 would make Bosnia look like a trip to Disneyworld.

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