Idiot woman is in an argument with her insurance company. They deny her claim. She tells them: “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.”
She was arrested for making a threat to carry out a mass shooting. She admitted in court that she made the statement purposely to reference the recent UnitedHealthcare shooting. The judge set her bail at $100,000.
Now here come the Internet legal experts, who are claiming that the bail amount is excessive, that she can’t be arrested for threatening to kill a corporation because it isn’t a person, and that her statement wasn’t a real threat because she doesn’t own any guns.
They are all wrong, and this chick is rightfully going to jail. If I called up a school and said “Remember Columbine? You guys are next.” I would go to jail, and I would deserve it.
Don’t be an asshole.
The specific charge will likely change, because the statute listed is for written or electronic threats that are not phone calls. This isn’t going to be reduced to a misdemeanor, though.
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It's just Boris · December 13, 2024 at 10:00 am
“Don’t be an asshole.”
The world would be a much nicer place if more people made the attempt.
However … Nobody’s an asshole in their own minds, and increasingly few people seem to have the ability (or willingness) for introspection that allows one to view one’s self as others might.
foot in the forest · December 13, 2024 at 10:44 am
Words have consequences, should have engaged the brain first. She will not enjoy her trip thru the justice system.
Big Ruckus D · December 13, 2024 at 12:50 pm
Meh. Idiots being idiots and shooting their mouths in emotional outbursts trying to intimidate, when they have no intention of actually backing it up. Same old shit that’s been seen countless times.
Seriously, if one has real intentions of airing a joint out, you don’t talk about it in advance to anyone, especially the intended target. You plan it, do it, disappear and keep your mouth shut forevermore. That doesn’t mean you don’t get caught, but sometimes luck actually runs in one’s favor. Anyway, too many wannabe badasses running around.
Tsgt Joe · December 13, 2024 at 9:00 pm
Most of the trouble I’ve gotten into in my life has been because I ran my mouth. Shutting the fuck up is a hard lesson for many of us.
Boneman · December 14, 2024 at 7:27 am
It was a pretty stupid thing to say. Unfortunately sometimes folks are unable to keep their emotional reactions from clouding their judgement. I know from experience, the FIRST PERSON that loses their shit in an argument, no matter HOW RIGHT THEY ARE… loses. This case is a perfect example. I don’t know all the details but… jail. That’s pretty much a losing situation regardless of how much in or out of the “right” you may or may not be.
Now, as to being an asshole. Personally, I think that’s a genetic condition and it’s pretty much in all of us. In some, it’s latent. In others it’s blatant. The secret is not to DENY, but to EMBRACE and MASTER it. (Yes, I’m in the “BLATANT” column) It is in part a blessing and can be a formidable weapon when wielded wisely. But like the FORCE, it must be CONTROLLED. It takes years of experience.
The Dark Side of allowing the Inner Asshole free range… Yeah, gets you places like Jail. ESPECIALLY when inebriated.
It is one extremely keen, double edged sword.
So watch your backswing. 😉
SoCoRuss · December 14, 2024 at 9:01 pm
The NY shooter has started something though. Maybe that was the idea from the get go.
I’m amazed that these corporations that have destroyed so many peoples and their families lives and have gotten away with no punishment. Maybe that’s about to change.
Decisions have consequences on both sides, maybe its time folks are reminded about that little fact.
But as to punishment for her. I don’t think the DA will want to take this to trial. How are you gonna find a jury that doesn’t contain someone who has been screwed just for fun by the big guys.
Wayne · December 15, 2024 at 11:04 am
Your last paragraph is actually a BIG problem. Arresting a person for a charge that is not applicable has a term. If the DA swore out a warrant, that is prosecutorial misconduct. If an officer just made an arrest on their own, that is false arrest.
The trend of “We know they are guilty, so we will arrest them for something fake, then amend the charges once we figure out what to charge.” sounds terrifyingly similar to Lavrentiy Beria’s famous boast “Show me the man and I will show you the crime.”
Laws have specific meanings. If the government is allowed to violate laws to get “bad people”, we are on a quick road to ruin.
To quote Thomas More (from ‘A Man for All Seasons’): “I would give the Devil himself the benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake.”
Divemedic · December 15, 2024 at 11:36 am
Naw. The charge is a mistake because the involved law says electronic communication doesn’t include telephone calls. Likely a mistake made by the arresting officer.
The statute number will change, but that isn’t a case of hunting for a crime. Telling someone that you are coming to kill them is a crime and should be.
Wayne · December 15, 2024 at 11:41 am
The point here is that the government needs to get their ducks in a row BEFORE they make an arrest.
You shouldn’t be be arrested because a policeman thinks you might do something bad. You should be arrested because you violated a SPECIFIC law. If police can’t identify a specific law that she violated, they have no grounds to arrest her.
If she violated a law, but they arrested her for something else, then they are sloppy and corrupt and need to be taught to actually do their jobs by the book, not just play ‘SWAT’ for fun and profit.
TRX · December 16, 2024 at 12:42 pm
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court has already ruled that an officer doesn’t have to know what specific law you violated; they can just arrest you on general principles and figure out what to charge you with down at the station.
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