This is how NOT to train with firearms. What live fire range is dumb enough to allow this?
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Rude Guest · June 29, 2026 at 8:00 pm
The army uses machine gun simulators (propane driven noise makers) on theirs. Before that they used machine guns on fixed mounts at set heights – which resulted in too many injuries.
Live fire training exercises get .. problematic when you’re covering enfilade fire, and worse with night fire exercises.
Miles · June 30, 2026 at 1:46 am
When did Uncle change from using MGs?
Rude Guest · June 30, 2026 at 10:48 am
Was sometime in the 1980s – Fort Sill in 1996 used the simulators for those.
Miles · July 1, 2026 at 11:38 am
Interesting.
I was stationed at Fort Knox running a shift at the Armor School’s main weapons pool from 2005-09 before it moved to Fort Benning and I moved on to elsewhere.
We supported the Benavidez Range NIC there for BCT & OSUT, transitioning from M60s to M240Bs in ’06. At least up to last year, the ROTC summer courses there still use live fire. But I have hear that many training posts have gone to these ‘gas guns’ as well as explosive simulators instead of the TNT charges.
C · July 3, 2026 at 6:45 am
Fort Jackson quit back in 2009. The course was closed for construction and “modernization” that year. Basically a dumbass private decided to stick his hand up to see if the tracers were real.
TRX · June 29, 2026 at 9:29 pm
The US Army started doing crawling-under-live-fire exercises in WWI, and they were also done in WWII. Not sure about Vietnam.
The British Army also did it.
Stefan v. · June 30, 2026 at 5:57 am
Battle inoculation, stress inoculation…whatever the name, it was carefully planned by professionals. Many iterations, no stupid death or injury. If something went red, it was a failure of planning or executing the plan. These yahoos….not. Are these Geehardy or Kartelly Klowns?
Will · June 30, 2026 at 6:43 am
When I was in Basic Training in Ft. Polk we crawled under live fire. I was sitting in some wooden bleachers and could see the tracer rounds go over the heads of the grunts that were in the course. When it came my turn, I simply bent over at the wast and ran trough the course. It beat crawling through red clay mud.
Ole Grump · June 30, 2026 at 9:26 am
Fort Lost in the Woods, 1960. Full dark. Water cooled Brownings and quarter pound TNT charges in sandbag enclosures, with wire obstacles. At start of course fire was well overhead. By end fire was about three to four feet above ground level. One guy did panic but the gunner was alert and off the trigger in time. No blood but lots of cussing.
Tsgt Joe · June 30, 2026 at 11:15 am
If some mother fâr shot in front of me like that, I would do my very best to stomp his ass.
lynn · June 30, 2026 at 3:20 pm
That is freaking dangerous. If the US Marine Corps does not do it then run away.
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