I understand the frustration. So many out there feel that nothing is being done to restore the Republic. I get it, and I feel it myself, at times. You want something to be done, you want things to be the way that they were. The sad truth is that those days are gone. Life will never again be the way that it was. What we are watching here is the death of the country that we grew up with. Because we are living it, it seems to be happening in slow motion. From a historical perspective, it probably won’t be viewed that way.

Look at the American revolution as an example. We think of the American revolution as happening quickly, but that wasn’t the case at all. The Stamp Act was passed in 1765, while the Boston massacre didn’t occur until 1770. The Boston Tea Party was not until 1773. The battle of Lexington and Concord didn’t happen until 1775, a decade after the Stamp Act. The colonists didn’t defeat Cornwallis until 1781. Rhode Island, the last of the colonies to ratify the Constitution, didn’t do so until 1790, 25 years after the Stamp Act. These things seem slow while you are living through them, not so much when viewed centuries later.

That which cannot continue forever, won’t. That includes this nation. Nearly every nation on the planet has seen its government fall and be replaced since this country came into existence. There is no reason to view our own nation any differently. There is nothing that we can do about it: collectively, or individually, we are doomed to watch as the nation we love falls into the dustbin of history. I will leave it to future historians to decide exactly when the fall of this nation began. They will have a much better perspective than those of us who are living it.

It’s mathematically and historically certain at this point- our government and the nation it is nominally in charge of are about to fail. There is nothing that can prevent that. Do you think the American citizens will sit idly by while Conservative militias tell them that their social security and welfare are a thing of the past? How large will the riots be when the free money machine stops flowing?

As I said previously, those who step forward and try to change things are not going to succeed. There are only two outcomes in that endeavor: we fail and wind up dead or in prison, which is exactly what happened to the J6 protesters, or we succeed in removing the communists who are trying to overthrow the government and- do what?

  • We would still be living under a government with $30 something trillion in debts and another couple hundred trillion in as yet unfunded liabilities. Those over 45 or so are going to demand their Social Security, which we cannot afford to pay. Any one who thinks otherwise is foolishly deluded. The entire world is on the verge of an economic collapse caused by profligate spending and loose fiscal policy.
  • The bloated bureaucracy that is the Federal government. What to do with it? What are all of those workers going to be doing while you are telling them that they are fired? Sure, the government may have fallen by that point, but you still have a large number of now unemployed Feds who will be fighting for power. It will make the Somali warlord faction fight small by comparison.
  • With all of that going on, the Chinese and Russians are not going to stand idly by and do nothing. Likewise, neither are the Mexican cartels. As soon as the US government is weak, expect those who are strong to take action. So any new government will have to deal with that while also trying to get the domestic house in order.

I can see what is coming, and it looks grim. The thing that scares me, what keeps me up at night, is the fear that my vision of the poverty, violence, and unrest that will come when the system fails isn’t close to what the reality will be.

The time for saving our nation has passed. In the words of John Cleese:

“This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It’s expired and gone to meet its maker! This is a late parrot! It’s a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed it to the perch, it would be pushing up the daisies! It’s rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-parrot!”

We need to understand that our government is using fiscal nails to keep the US government on its perch. When that perch fails is anyone’s guess, but the signs are there that it is coming. All that is keeping our nation on that perch is pure momentum and lots of soon to be worthless dollars.

You aren’t going to fix those problems with a charge up Bunker Hill, Capitol Hill, or any other hill. To try and do so would be an exercise in futility and a waste of your life. Even should you survive that battle, what of the next?

When I worked in public safety, we used to make tactical decisions that were based on one overriding concern: what are we risking, versus what do we stand to gain? Are we going to risk the lives of rescuers to save an empty building? Probably not. Risk nothing to save nothing. Minimize risk to maximize gain. We learned to recognize when a building was lost, and to take steps to minimize our losses. That was actually one of the more difficult things that you have to learn to accept as a firefighter, a paramedic, or a nurse: You can’t save every puppy in the pound. So we save what we can, and we learn to be around for the next time. That is what we need to do here.

You foolishly think that the Us military won’t fire on civilians? Pshh. You haven’t been paying attention to history.

  • Veterans protesting and demanding what pay they were owed from WW1 were attacked by troops led by McArthur and Patton in 1925. The troops used tanks, bayonets, and chemical agents on old men, women, and children.
  • In 1921, the Army used bombers, nerve gas, and aerial bombardment on unionized miners who had armed themselves and were refusing to work while protesting working conditions in coal mines.
  • In 1970, Twenty-eight National Guard soldiers fired 67 rounds in 13 seconds at Kent State, killing four protesters of the Vietnam war, and wounding nine others.
  • The Waco siege used Bradley Armored Fighting Vehicles, M728 Combat Engineer Vehicles and 2 M1A1 Abrams Tanks from the US Army and Texas National Guard.
  • and on, and on, and…

So what can we do? What SHOULD we do? Exactly what we are doing, that’s what. Watch, make sure that you, your families, and your like minded neighbors are in as good a position for weathering the coming storm as you can be. Have food, water, and shelter taken care of. Make sure you have skills in as many fields as possible: know some medicine, how to grow food, how to repair things. Those skills you don’t have, make friends with those locally who do have them. Make sure you aren’t a freeloader- bring skills to the table that those others will need. Store your wealth in things that aren’t measured in dollars. In other words, don’t put all of your eggs in the stock market, in cash, or the bank. When the economy collapses, all of that will become worthless. Instead, own land, own tangible things that are useful like a home, precious metals, tools, ammunition, canning supplies, and other things that are useful in trade.

So my advice here is to recognize that securing your own position through this is the best course of action. Understand what you can and cannot change, learn to tell the difference, and adapt to that which you cannot change. Governments fall, but the people remain. Make sure that you are one of the ones who remain. I know that some of you will think that this sounds defeatist, and maybe it is. I just don’t think that there is any way to change the course that this nation is on. It will play out, and my objective is to still be around to see what comes after.

Now if trouble should come to me, then I will handle things as I see fit. That includes door to door confiscation, but I am not going to go out looking for trouble.

If you still feel that all we are doing here is talking and you disagree with me, feel free to go out there and stack up. Do what you think you have to do. Just don’t say that you weren’t warned, and don’t sit safely behind your computer keyboard and tell me that I am a coward when you yourself aren’t doing shit.

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Jen · May 12, 2023 at 12:36 pm

I’m glad you’re back.

Bones · May 12, 2023 at 12:55 pm

Good to have you back.

    Big Ruckus D · May 12, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    Good to see that your hiatus was brief. Based on what you’ve written above, your thinking on the big picture, the eventual outcome, and the proximate causes pretty well mirrors my own. It really can’t be argued with as I see it, and there really isn’t much more that needs to be said. One either “gets it”, or they don’t. Most don’t because they don’t want to; it is just too terrible to consider.

    Those who do are (and long have been) making plans and preps – including acquiring needed skills – for the eventualities we will be facing. It will be very difficult to make it through what is coming. Failing to have even gotten one’s mind to grasp the future now on tap is the biggest and surest path to failure to survive. After that, failure to adequately plan and prep for short to medium term needs will be the undoing of many, assuming one can remain nominally safe to begin with. Nourishment and health aids will be a huge factor, those who don’t have such provisions will perish even if not taken out by direct violent action first.

    As much as I like to vent about the damnable subversives who brought us to ruination getting what they so richly deserve, to the extent that does happen, I expect Aesop is correct; it will happen quietly and stealthily, and the general public is unlikely to hear much of it. Which is as it should be. Not only because it’s occurrence will be actively suppressed by a media machine that seeks to deny it’s existence in a futile bid to prevent the proliferation of such actions, but at a certain point there is unlikely to be a well organized and effective state media as it now exists.

    Loss of power grid, satellite facilities, and innumerable other pieces of the key infrastructure needed to effectively operate the full spectrum propaganda machine, will reduce it to a shadow of what it is presently. Besides, those doing the good work of culling tyrants and other assorted shitheads should be afforded the benefit of being able to operate with little or no oversight. Thus, do not think of the lack of such acts being widely publicized as inherently bad.

    Godspeed. Brace for impact.

      Rob · May 13, 2023 at 7:45 am

      That’s the most honest, accurate, non – emotional statement of the upcoming failure of this country, on all of the interwebs.
      That is why I read here every day.

SmileyFtW · May 12, 2023 at 12:56 pm

As am I

Gryphon · May 12, 2023 at 1:02 pm

I fully agree with your views regarding the “Keyboard Commando” problem, but I never let it become Frustrating, as it seems to be for a lot of people. My view has always been, like you stated, ” what are we risking, versus what do we stand to gain? ” That is why even the Bravest Chairborne Rangers never actually DO anything. Are they Cowards, advocating that Others do what they themselves Won’t? Possibly, but more likely, they do know that IF the Chaos they Advocate were to actually Happen, Life would get…. Unpleasant.

That has always been my position; as long as there is Food (or some plastic facsimile of) and cheap, gay-ass Beer at the Store, the Lights are on, there is Gas and Diesel Fuel available, the vast majority of people have No Reason to go out and Shoot commies (and .gov officials). Being Prepared for that eventuality is just Common Sense; Starting to Fight before either A) the regime suffers an Internal Schism that renders it ineffective/irrelevant, or B) the fraud banking/monetary system Collapses is simply Foolishness.

You said, “Now if trouble should come to me, then I will handle things as I see fit. That includes door to door confiscation, but I am not going to go out looking for trouble.”
Have you thought that through to a logical conclusion? Waiting for the mob of thugpigs to break down your Door to ‘Confiscate your Guns’ is Not a good Tactic. IF widespread, door-to-door confiscations Start, that’s the Time to go looking for where the thugpigs live. The same thing applies to When (not if) the feral ‘government’ starts using the military to repress dissenters, particularly if Heavy Weapons and Aviation Assets are used- That should be “Go Time” for anyone who thinks they are up for Kinetic Action.

    Divemedic · May 12, 2023 at 1:14 pm

    Each of us has to make that call for themselves. To allow others to goad you into premature action is foolish. I mean, this video wants you to believe they already are.

      Jaybo · May 12, 2023 at 2:55 pm

      I’m new here. You are spot on Bro

    Steve · May 12, 2023 at 1:37 pm

    I don’t have a problem at all with keyboard warriors. I get it that most will probably fold, but anything that adds to the uncertainty of the enemy is a good thing IMO.

    I view them in the same category as those who use weak passwords. They will be the canaries in the coal mine, not those keeping a low profile or using a more secure password, respectively.

    The Infant Phenomenon · May 13, 2023 at 9:22 am

    Good post overall, but …

    You wrote:
    “Have you thought that through to a logical conclusion? Waiting for the mob of thugpigs to break down your Door to ‘Confiscate your Guns’ is Not a good Tactic. IF widespread, door-to-door confiscations Start, that’s the Time to go looking for where the thugpigs live.”

    But none of us will know where the thugpigs are being stored.

    We saw quite clearly an “January 6th” that “they” do not trust the forces under their command to obey their orders. We saw the inauguration ceremony–closed to the public–take place behind barbed wire and 25.000 troops. But we know that Nancy Pee was on the phone to the Pentagon asking them to supply RA troops b/c she didn’t think the Guard troops at her disposal would obey her.

    The Soviet Union disintegrated when the army sided with the people. Ditto for the 1789 French Revolution. And many other examples.

    “They” know that.

    So they are at this very moment importing an army that WILL obey their commands to kill Americans and to disarm them. That’s why all the young military-aged men are being brought in and given phones–that’s a command and control structure. The “other” illegals are merely a smokescreen. Two things are happening at once: the importation of a cadre of obedient soldiers and the “other” migrants, the smokescreen.

    The soldiers are being housed in expensive hotels. And they have their phones–the phones given to them when they come into the country. Nobody knows where these soldiers are being kept, and nobody is going to know. And even if ordinary Americans find out, they won’t be able to get near them. The UN and the Biden Admin are funding the busses bringing the soldiers in from Panama. Thousands, I have read, are Chinese, Afghanis, or Pakistanis.

    And they are being brought in to do the door-to-door confiscations. And you won’t get an appointment. They will show up here and there–all over the country–without warning and will disarm the population, and any resistance (if there be any at all, given the suddenness of their appearance) will be mercilessly suppressed on the spot.

    That’s why they are being brought in right now.

    So we ARE going to live under a Communist police state for 8 or 9 years. THEN the revolution will take place (2030 – 2035), the country (already broken apart) will assume new boundaries, and four or so new countries will arise in North America. Whether there will still be maps at that time I can’t say.

Tim McCann · May 12, 2023 at 1:12 pm

I think thar what VDH describes in this video How California Destroyed its Middle Class (A Cautionary Tale) | Victor Davis Hanson Is true on a national level and is a sign post as to where things are going for this country. Watch it an you tell me.

Liberty Chapel · May 12, 2023 at 1:22 pm

Survival is never defeatist. All great nations are destroyed from within and even Ape Lincoln said this time would come.
At least we don’t have our head in the sand or have the Pollyannaish everything will be fine mindset.
Overheard some family box wine aunties conversation and I was about to scream, had to go out for another heel and toe.
Inflation comes in cycles, Bidet has us on the right track, at least I’m not a racist, darr, derp, drool.
1913, 1947, 1964, 1965, 2009 or Year Zero, 2020, these will be the dates for the AI historians to ponder regarding the beginning of the dissolution.

Mike Horvath · May 12, 2023 at 1:55 pm

Couldn’t agree with your POV more. In my 70s I’ve watched it all unfold. From beautiful, white, Christian, patriotic America to the crazed fustercluck we live in today. It’s of no consequence now but fwiw, I believe the descent of America began with back to back pieces of legislation. The civil rights act of 1964 and the immigration and reform act of 1965.

Capitalist Eric · May 12, 2023 at 1:56 pm

Pretty much what I’ve been saying for the last couple of years.

The ability too freely print money that the rest of the world was forced to accept, is the ONLY thing that has kept .gov going to this point. When THAT ends, so does the government. Buckle up…

Michael · May 12, 2023 at 2:17 pm

Glad your back. I agree protect your family and trusted friends.

Electronic digits and pretty pictures of old US Presidents will fail soon enough, and the chaos will be horrific.

Grahm’s Killhouse rules apply YOU are your own best rescuer.

Out West · May 12, 2023 at 2:30 pm

Also glad you’re back. You’re one of the sane ones in a world of insanity. I’ll be passing your post on for the truth it speaks. I recall you saying that when SHTF is imminent (or something to that effect) you’d be rolling it up and disappearing. That’s one of several harbingers I’m watching for.

godhelpus · May 12, 2023 at 2:51 pm

Truer words never spoke.

E M Johnson · May 12, 2023 at 4:22 pm

I am glad your back. I appreciate the work you do here and share much the same perspective. We can’t afford to be black pilled nor goaded into reckless endeavors. Don’t let the trolls get under your skin. There are a lot of us that have come to the same conclusion. Lets try and ride this to the other side and if we’re lucky maybe still have something our grandkids can start building back again… whatever that may look like post U.S.

General's Addition · May 12, 2023 at 5:38 pm

“… I am not going to go out looking for trouble.”

Indeed, there is no time quite like the wrong time.

T Town · May 12, 2023 at 5:39 pm

Unless you have factored in the electric grid going down, you haven’t thought of how bad things can get. I doubt that many of the utilities will continue to operate reliably for very long should the government collapse. Plus, emergency services like police, fire, ambulance, etc. probably won’t run for too long either. Even though these things are operated at a local level, the local governemnts, and even utilities, rely too much on support from the feds.

    Divemedic · May 12, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    Judging by other countries, there will be areas of the country where utilities are more reliable than others. Likewise, other services as well.
    There will be a return to volunteer and subscription based services for police, fire, and EMS. The level of service will likely be lower than it is now for all of it.
    I don’t think it will be completely gone.

BobF · May 12, 2023 at 5:58 pm

Yep. Have to agree. I can’t consider myself a true prepper when I read of what some are doing, but we have been storing water, food, and other essentials for several years now and the freeze dryers rtuns almost constantly. (But I still can’t manage to empty the freezers!)

A post I read recently about our natural gas pipeline being run with electric rather than gas (Duh!) has me concerned anew. I had previously taken my natural gas as a given. No more, and THAT is a major wrinkle.

I consider my arms and ammunition to be for defensive purposes, always have. Anyone who thinks someone is on the payroll to control (shoot if necessary) others when ordered to do so will decide it is better to side with them iand forego the paycheck for food, shelter, and clothing is in my opinion nuts.

Wife wonders why I keep buying tools at my age. Heh. I hope never to need them for such purpose, but I wonder how much bread I can get for a hammer “then”?

Pretty well fixed for comm — CB, which will be nearly useless I think, 2 scanners, HAM (barely active) with 20′ base antenna, and GMRS with 20′ base antenna with good separation from the HAM. and multiple portables. Got to tell you though, I have to refresh myself frequently on operation with the “everything in one little screen” concept.

A new supply of med kit rotations comes in Monday.

I seem to spend half my life looking at Excel spreadsheets that reflect inventories and expiration/review dates.

joe · May 12, 2023 at 6:48 pm

i was pissed for the longest but much calmer now…i have chosen hills i’m willing to die on and at this point in the circus, it’s about all we can do…good to see you back DM

Matt · May 12, 2023 at 6:57 pm

So few take this serious. It’s easy to pay it lip service. When it gets real, it will separate the trained from the untrained.

Nolan Parker · May 12, 2023 at 7:14 pm

I THOUGHT I had been seeing clearly. Ever the optimist,I have been holding onto the idea that it’s fixable. While simultaneously seeing that I can’t imagine how.. I just haven’t wanted to admit that ugly truth, because of the young people I love and want a good future for. You’re right, tho,, I’m just a crippled up old man, so, no, I’m not going anywhere to Fix things,, whatever happens, Mehh,, if it comes down the driveway, I will deal with it as well as I can.

Mike Hendrix · May 12, 2023 at 9:00 pm

SOOO damned happy to see you’re back, DM. Hang in there, buddy, and remember everyone’s favorite fake Latin phrase: Illegitimi non carborundum!

Don't Mind Me. · May 12, 2023 at 9:37 pm

Very succinct. Shit storm a comin. Stay away from crowds and get as much of your wealth as possible out of the banks.

B · May 12, 2023 at 9:44 pm

That previous post:

Well said. Very well said.

I’ve said similar, just not so well.

Wydah · May 13, 2023 at 7:17 am

We must be brothers from a different mother. I reached the same conclusions as you some time ago. My own firefighting career taught me same as you. Considering risk vs benefit can be applied to most everything. Be safe.

WDS · May 13, 2023 at 8:38 am

This asshat…..


Aesop · May 13, 2023 at 10:40 am

I get you. And you’re not wrong.

You get more of what you tolerate.
If all anyone does is wait and see, all you’re ever going to do is wait and see.

Some people may be content to wait forever, without ever drawing a line in the sand.
That’s certainly within their rights to choose.

But a non-zero number won’t wait endlessly and just watch.
That doesn’t mean they’re going to do stupid things, like show up for protest rallies, and end up in no-bail prison forever.
It doesn’t mean they’re going to tilt at windmills and storm the castle with just three guys and fire cloak.

Some of them know what’s at stake, and they’re still going to decide to do something about it, without your permission or leave.

And by the time anyone figures out anything is happening, it’s going to be in full bloom.

For all most of us know, it may have already started.

What happens when it becomes obvious?

Just wondering.

    Divemedic · May 13, 2023 at 10:52 am

    Like I said: Anyone who feels the need to stack up, go right ahead. Just don’t sit behind a computer keyboard while doing nothing, but then take others to task for not going out and risking it all in a useless gesture.
    I don’t think that there is anything that can be done to change the outcome. How would you realistically define a “win” in such a scenario?

      Aesop · May 13, 2023 at 1:05 pm

      I don’t think you really believe that.
      If you really think there’s nothing to be done to change the outcome, why haven’t you cut to the chase, changed sides, and embraced the inevitable victorious overlords?

      None of us has a permanent lease on our meatsuit.
      If sheer existence is all that matters, run for the hills, now, today.
      But there’s more to life than sucking oxygen.

      If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; If you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival.

      There may even be a worse case.

      You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” Winston Churchill

      “To the last, I will grapple with thee. From Hell’s heart, I stab at thee. For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee!”
      -Henry Melville, Moby Dick
      -Khan Noonian Singh, The Wrath Of Khan

      It’s better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees.” – Emiliano Zapata

      TPTB fear that kind of commitment, because they know how weak they really are, and how tenuous their hold on the reins of power.

      And few gestures are as useless as never doing anything.
      The time may not be now; neither is it never.

neomunitor · May 13, 2023 at 1:12 pm

If collapse is inevitable, do you want the country pre-filled with another 20 to 30 million illegals, mostly military age males, from countries with no rule of law, in addition to the 25-30 million illegals that are already here? Because if the invasion isn’t stopped soon, that is what we will be facing when the collapse happens.

If collapse is inevitable, do you want to have to rebuild from a system already stripped to the bone by a decade of insane energy policies that will put the entire grid and oil and gas industries even further behind? Because we haven’t had a new refinery built in over 40 years and the grid teeters on the edge of failure.

If collapse is inevitable, do you want to allow even more censorship, surveillance, and banning of the activities and resources that would make survival and restoration of a functioning republic possible? Because if you are scraping by, living day to day, scrambling for medical supplies, food, power, ammunition, and can’t communicate or organize, it will be really hard to do anything but gradually die off.

(1) stockpile resources now and pre-emptively initiate the inevitable collapse of the existing regime
Advantages: maximize probability of living through the transition, depending on your involvement; possible superior system once transition completed; existing infrastructure in repairable condition; alien population limited
Disadvantages: immediate disruption to your life for a prolonged period; possible period of life WROL; uncertain outcome, replacement regime may be a military dictatorship or regional warlords
(2) wait until some future, random date when the collapse happens on its own when your resource levels and the system conditions will be at some level worse than they are now
Advantages: you get to prolong the tolerable conditions of existence you live in for some unknown period of time, possibly years; collapse may be gradual rather than sudden, providing several years of tolerable lifestyle for the upper middle class
Disadvantages: collapse may be sudden, catastrophic, and happen at any time; alien population is growing at 2+ million per year, mostly MAM; voting is not able to slow down the degradation of the system; regime policies are not favorable for improving your preparedness; collapse when your resources are low or systems degraded may result in low likelihood of survival, regardless of your involvement in any effort to revive the republic

It is a choice, and the only thing certain is that it could all go to shit tomorrow, regardless of whether you initiate, don’t initiate, prepare, or don’t prepare. Lots of uncertainty. You might think you can avoid trouble, but that doesn’t mean trouble will avoid you. The regime is hell bent on bringing the whole thing down in flames, and that *is* going to burn everyone.

Jonesy · May 13, 2023 at 4:20 pm

The collapse has been happening very slow. The leftists and collectivist in power have been very careful to move in small increments. The concept of the Overton Window comes to mind. Move too fast or lurch to the left and you get resistance. Move slowly and the loss of freedoms becomes natural and accepted.

So do the best you can to prepare. When it eventually happens, it could go a million ways. I prepare for a prolonged power outage as a potential worst case scenario. Door to door actions, localized political violence and the such will have to be dealt with on fly as it comes. Too many things to worry about to make plans for everything.
Becoming a refugee is the last option.

tb · May 15, 2023 at 4:27 pm

“One does not stop the juggernaut by throwing oneself in front of it.”

-Ayn Rand, Persuasion, April 1967

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