That POS black man punched his pregnant girlfriend eventually causing him to get his sorry black ass kicked off his first college football team by his teammates. Sadly the money was more important and now he makes millions
TakeAHardLook
· September 10, 2024 at 3:15 pm
On the one hand: the driver could do a much better job of compliance:
Engine off, keys on dash, windows rolled down and hands on dash.
Follow the cop’s requests. Take your ticket & be glad you don’t get hauled downtown.
OTOH: once the driver has pissed off the cop by not complying with the roll down order, the cop escalated the entire situation by immediately and forcefully pulling the driver out of the vehicle by his neck & dropping him to the ground. Then the handcuffs. They then lifted him, brought him to the curb and–when he did not instantly comply with the order to sit down–another cop instantly rolled down on him, forcing him to sit.
While getting to a sitting position, the driver (who did not name drop) told the cops that he “just had surgery on my knee,” which afforded him zero consideration as they got him down.
These situations can go any which way, but the cops (4,5–6 maybe?) were very, very aggressive (witness the cops going “all cop” on the driver who exited his vehicle ahead of the incident. Practically ready to draw down on the second guy for his “noncompliance”).
Yes, traffic stops are statistically a potentially dangerous event for a traffic cop; but showing the entire Miami public that they won’t take shyt from anyone and will max out on any infraction–or perceived infraction–is sure to inflame the public, and they do this shyt A LOT!
What do the police think could happen in a general period of civil unrest? They are not, IMO, “winning the hearts and minds” of the people they police.
Divemedic
· September 10, 2024 at 4:24 pm
“Just had surgery” is bullshit, as evidenced by the fact that he played in a football game less than two hours later.
People always come up with medical reasons as to why the cops can’t arrest them. We in the ED jokingly refer to it as “incarceritis”
People in these situations find all sorts of reasons as to why they don’t have to comply with the police’s request. This is one of those times that I can understand their reaction.
TakeAHardLook
· September 10, 2024 at 5:15 pm
I was not aware of his near-immediate-future participation in an NFL game. Understandable, then, that they came down on him “well and truly” when they got the usual resistance (Glad that they didn’t bust up the McLaren–that would’ve sucked).
That said, greater minds than mine have amassed some truly nauseating and disturbing facts and anecdotes about our largest uniformed gang in America. These stories make the Miami cops look like choir boys at High Mass.
“Battlefield America” by John Whitehead
Divemedic
· September 10, 2024 at 6:18 pm
Again, read this blog for any amount of time, and you know that I have no love for the cops and their behavior. However, the video in this case shows that the cops were in the right on this one.
ModernDayJeremiah
· September 11, 2024 at 10:11 am
No, Divemedic, the cops weren’t in the right on this one. They yanked Hill out of his car, threw him to the ground, and cuffed him for no other reason than “contempt of cop”. You also need to fact check yourself. You parroted the unsubstantiated claim that he was driving “80 in a 40” and that he didn’t have a license. He was cited for “careless driving” (not reckless, and there is a big difference, and a seat belt violation. I’m not saying that Hill was without fault here, but I suggest that you reexamine your presuppositions.
Hmmm. Looks like his agent was wrong. According to USA Today, he was cited for careless (not reckless) driving, for estimated 60 in a 40 (no radar, and not 80 as you previously claimed) and for a seat belt violation. 60 in a 40 certainly rates a ticket, but not being yanked from his car, cuffed, and thrown to the ground. Admit it, you were wrong. And you didn’t cite the NBC story in your post.
That’s where YOU are wrong. The original post was this one, and there is a link to all three articles in there.
But hey, let’s assume that he WAS doing 60 in a 40. He wasn’t pulled from the car for that. He was pulled from the car for not complying with the lawful orders of the police to keep his dark windows rolled down. 60 in a 40 or even 80 in a 40 is a ticket that Hill, who has made $98 million playing football, could afford without even noticing the money was gone.
Call it contempt of cop all you want, but the request from the cop was a reasonable and lawful order to keep his darkly tinted window rolled down while they conducted business.
The use of force ladder was followed:
1 officer presence
2 dialog between the parties- the cop tried this and Hill refused to engage
3 verbal commands- Hill refused to roll his window down
4 soft hands technique- since he refused to comply with officer directions, he was pulled from the car
The cops have a job to do, and resisting them in that job is going to get you engaged with physical force. This wasn’t a “respect my authority” kind of stop, in that you even admit that he was breaking the law. The cop didn’t ask Hill to kiss his ass, all the cop wanted was a reasonable request to keep his window down.
Sometimes people hate cops so much that they can’t reasonably and objectively look at a situation. Don’t let your hatred for cops make you blind to the truth.
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Bear Claw · September 10, 2024 at 1:58 pm
That POS black man punched his pregnant girlfriend eventually causing him to get his sorry black ass kicked off his first college football team by his teammates. Sadly the money was more important and now he makes millions
TakeAHardLook · September 10, 2024 at 3:15 pm
On the one hand: the driver could do a much better job of compliance:
Engine off, keys on dash, windows rolled down and hands on dash.
Follow the cop’s requests. Take your ticket & be glad you don’t get hauled downtown.
OTOH: once the driver has pissed off the cop by not complying with the roll down order, the cop escalated the entire situation by immediately and forcefully pulling the driver out of the vehicle by his neck & dropping him to the ground. Then the handcuffs. They then lifted him, brought him to the curb and–when he did not instantly comply with the order to sit down–another cop instantly rolled down on him, forcing him to sit.
While getting to a sitting position, the driver (who did not name drop) told the cops that he “just had surgery on my knee,” which afforded him zero consideration as they got him down.
These situations can go any which way, but the cops (4,5–6 maybe?) were very, very aggressive (witness the cops going “all cop” on the driver who exited his vehicle ahead of the incident. Practically ready to draw down on the second guy for his “noncompliance”).
Yes, traffic stops are statistically a potentially dangerous event for a traffic cop; but showing the entire Miami public that they won’t take shyt from anyone and will max out on any infraction–or perceived infraction–is sure to inflame the public, and they do this shyt A LOT!
What do the police think could happen in a general period of civil unrest? They are not, IMO, “winning the hearts and minds” of the people they police.
Divemedic · September 10, 2024 at 4:24 pm
“Just had surgery” is bullshit, as evidenced by the fact that he played in a football game less than two hours later.
People always come up with medical reasons as to why the cops can’t arrest them. We in the ED jokingly refer to it as “incarceritis”
People in these situations find all sorts of reasons as to why they don’t have to comply with the police’s request. This is one of those times that I can understand their reaction.
TakeAHardLook · September 10, 2024 at 5:15 pm
I was not aware of his near-immediate-future participation in an NFL game. Understandable, then, that they came down on him “well and truly” when they got the usual resistance (Glad that they didn’t bust up the McLaren–that would’ve sucked).
That said, greater minds than mine have amassed some truly nauseating and disturbing facts and anecdotes about our largest uniformed gang in America. These stories make the Miami cops look like choir boys at High Mass.
“Battlefield America” by John Whitehead
Divemedic · September 10, 2024 at 6:18 pm
Again, read this blog for any amount of time, and you know that I have no love for the cops and their behavior. However, the video in this case shows that the cops were in the right on this one.
ModernDayJeremiah · September 11, 2024 at 10:11 am
No, Divemedic, the cops weren’t in the right on this one. They yanked Hill out of his car, threw him to the ground, and cuffed him for no other reason than “contempt of cop”. You also need to fact check yourself. You parroted the unsubstantiated claim that he was driving “80 in a 40” and that he didn’t have a license. He was cited for “careless driving” (not reckless, and there is a big difference, and a seat belt violation. I’m not saying that Hill was without fault here, but I suggest that you reexamine your presuppositions.
Divemedic · September 11, 2024 at 6:12 pm
It was his own agent who said Hill was ticketed for not having a license.
It was Hill himself who claimed he was pulled over and ticketed for reckless driving.
ModernDayJeremiah · September 11, 2024 at 9:23 pm
Hmmm. Looks like his agent was wrong. According to USA Today, he was cited for careless (not reckless) driving, for estimated 60 in a 40 (no radar, and not 80 as you previously claimed) and for a seat belt violation. 60 in a 40 certainly rates a ticket, but not being yanked from his car, cuffed, and thrown to the ground. Admit it, you were wrong. And you didn’t cite the NBC story in your post.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2024/09/10/tyreek-hill-speeding-car-incident-miami-police/75156968007/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2024/09/10/tyreek-hill-speeding-miami-police/75163753007/
Divemedic · September 11, 2024 at 10:39 pm
That’s where YOU are wrong. The original post was this one, and there is a link to all three articles in there.
But hey, let’s assume that he WAS doing 60 in a 40. He wasn’t pulled from the car for that. He was pulled from the car for not complying with the lawful orders of the police to keep his dark windows rolled down. 60 in a 40 or even 80 in a 40 is a ticket that Hill, who has made $98 million playing football, could afford without even noticing the money was gone.
Call it contempt of cop all you want, but the request from the cop was a reasonable and lawful order to keep his darkly tinted window rolled down while they conducted business.
The use of force ladder was followed:
1 officer presence
2 dialog between the parties- the cop tried this and Hill refused to engage
3 verbal commands- Hill refused to roll his window down
4 soft hands technique- since he refused to comply with officer directions, he was pulled from the car
The cops have a job to do, and resisting them in that job is going to get you engaged with physical force. This wasn’t a “respect my authority” kind of stop, in that you even admit that he was breaking the law. The cop didn’t ask Hill to kiss his ass, all the cop wanted was a reasonable request to keep his window down.
Sometimes people hate cops so much that they can’t reasonably and objectively look at a situation. Don’t let your hatred for cops make you blind to the truth.
Ralph · September 10, 2024 at 5:31 pm
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