I would find out how much damage a 5 watt laser would do to a camera’s CMOS or CCD. You can buy one for about $400. That camera would be transmitting video of my house only until about 5 minutes after the UPS guy delivers my new purchase. I bet that he runs out of cameras before I run out of photons.
Or you could always call the cops, but it wouldn’t be as much fun.
In Florida, such an act would be illegal under 784.048:
A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
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Rob · July 14, 2023 at 5:34 am
Police either won’t do anything, or will be the ones confiscating. I’d go with the laser. And I’m sorry to hear you’ve lost your firearm collection in a boating accident.
Joe Blow · July 14, 2023 at 6:49 am
One of the big reasons I live on some wooded acreage out in the country, is this very reason. Also why I advocate it for like minded others. The other side isn’t going to fight fair.
My first 2 homes were typical suburban McMansions. 1st was a 1500 sq. ft starter home built in the 80s. Ryan Homes found a couple corn fields outside town, they bought, and built. When the neighboring corn fields got bought, we moved further out. Quiet old country town, 2000 sq ft turn of century house, beautiful stately old home (that needed some work).
Great homes, but both I could hit my neighbors with a softball.
Now my home is not visible from the road at all. You have to travel 50 yds on private property to get to a gate. At the gate you are 150 yds from my door, and tresspassing, before first sight of my domicile.
Oh, and yes, shovels and bags of lime are all around my shed. For the gardens of course. Poor soil, needs organic material added to it.
Don W Curton · July 14, 2023 at 8:00 am
This brings up an interesting thought I have about most of the liberal BS I see everyday. They are counting on us acting decently and not just shooting them in the face after 5 seconds of confrontation. Yell in our face, block traffic, threaten shit like the above – all while thinking that no one will actually just shoot them, run them over, kill them instantly. They call us violent while all the time knowing we aren’t.
This was the whole problem with the Ghandi passive resistance gambit – he knew the Brits were basically decent and eventually would grow ashamed of jailing a peaceful man. Had he tried that shit with the (old-school) Germans, or any of the muslim tribes, he’d be dead pretty much instantly and forgotten just that fast too.
Sooner or later that shit is going change. One day it’s going flip, like a light switch.
Joe Blow · July 15, 2023 at 11:35 am
You see it already in Europe with sone of these. Limatard protesters getting manhandled off the street they were attempting to block.
Frankly I would LOVE to encounter a group like that here, but alas…
Han Shot First, He Was No Fool · July 16, 2023 at 9:23 pm
Next you’ll be running Imperial blockades and snogging wandering rebel princesses.
It’s a good life. 🙂
D · July 14, 2023 at 9:16 am
I was under the impression that pretty much anything you can record from a public space was perfectly fine, no?
Beans · July 16, 2023 at 10:49 am
Yes, but…
Publishing it, that’s the thing. Setting up a live stream on someone’s house for malicious intent is very illegal in some states, and Florida (depending on the county) will prosecute the dog-poop out of you.
But that’s the thing. Like, oh, say, the Justice Department not acting on viable threats against Supreme Court Justices, it’s the local law enforcement and prosecutors/state’s attorneys that determine what the ‘law’ is in their jurisdiction.
Thus the whole Texas Department of Public Safety and the Austin City thingy. Austin won’t do anything mean to junkies and homeless, TDPS will, so Austin kicked them out, thus saying to losers, cretins, lowlifes and druggies that they are welcome.
To summarize, Sal the Agorist’s idea will work in some places, but not in places where Freedom exists.
Rick T · July 14, 2023 at 10:05 am
You don’t need to damage the CCD, just dazzle it with a regular laser pointer. The camera will pick up nothing but lens flare making the images useless. If the idiot is standing there he will probably panic and call the cops claiming you pointed a gun at him…
That also avoids the hazard of blinding the idiot too.
Woody · July 14, 2023 at 10:16 am
Advertise there is free video equipment for the taking, and the guy is unarmed.
Post his address and be sure to mention he isn’t home to defend it.
Hold gun talks and invite other to participate in a free podcast.
Cederq · July 14, 2023 at 10:27 am
As a kid I got hold of a 400 mW HeNe laser(red) and had lots of fun with that. I would sit up on the garage with a cardboard paper towel roll affixed over the output with a blackened slightly opaque clothe on the end to hide the light at the output and dance it across hoods of cars coming down the road. Drivers would get out and try to figure out where this red dot was coming from. This was before red lasers were being used on weapons and scopes.
It's just Boris · July 14, 2023 at 10:33 am
It might, depending on what filters he puts on the lenses.
Consider whether you want the jerk to know his camera is being lased. A 1-micron (infrared) wavelength laser beam spot can often be seen by a cell phone camera, and those lasers run cooler because there’s no frequency conversion stage (e.g. up into the green at around 0.5 micron).
Either way remember your laser safety glasses. 5W CW is not, depending on wavelength, eye safe.
Of course, old Sal wouldn’t even need to use a real camera, if the point is to try to elicit a response. In which case, calling the cops and pressing harassment charges might be the ultimately more effective route.
Tom762 · July 16, 2023 at 8:19 pm
Sal the agorist is not anti gun, and if you check out her page, you might be quite surprised.
Oldude · July 14, 2023 at 10:40 am
Evidently… this fool knows zero of Modern Fragging.
He’d be lucky if all that got ruined was his video camera.
Robert · July 14, 2023 at 11:43 am
A five-watt laser will not do permanent damage to a CMOS camera. It will temporarily blind the camera. That power level is considered unsafe for human eyesight and would be considered as aggravated assault if aimed at a person.
Antifa agents can get (and have gotten) away with laser blinding strikes on homeowners in Portland – and even on Federal workers in an office building. They were not arrested for that.
It probably does not work the other way around.
If Leftist “protestors” show up at someone’s house, they have tacit permission from the local authorities. The police will be ordered to protect them.
Laws mean nothing these days. Other methods will be required.
Jonathan · July 14, 2023 at 10:01 pm
They don’t anymore… BLM/ Antifa has tried to cause trouble in rural areas and failed spectacularly.
In my county, the sheriff would ask why you didn’t shoot him.
I’m sure this guy wouldn’t actually take the risk of doing anything; he is trying to get someone else to do it for him…
Robert · July 15, 2023 at 11:33 am
You make a pretty good point about your Sherriff. If the local authorities are not supportive of the Antifa franchise, you will have a much easier time resisting terrorists (err – “mostly peaceful protestors”) if they show up in your area,
The public statement from the Quora forum is an open solicitation for some crazy person to assault the targeted homeowner and possibly kill them. That is the entire point of such postings, and everybody understands this by now.
Given a wide enough audience, there will always be somebody willing to take up the challenge. It is a plausible threat, which is why it can be so alarming.
No need for subtlety or exotic hardware. “SSS” will work just fine as an appropriate response.
Leftists have destroyed the law. They will suffer the consequences.
Gryphon · July 14, 2023 at 12:41 pm
I would be looking into Ultraviolet-Range Lasers in the 50+ Watt Range, to cause Permanent Blindness to the bastard… Better-than-Fatal Injury, no way to Prove anything.
Big Ruckus D · July 14, 2023 at 7:32 pm
Ding ding ding. A high power laser in the non-visible spectrum – preferably UV, as IR is more readily detected – is the way to go. Your enemy can’t see it (barring the use of special hardware) and so even if you give the miscreant a proper eye-fucking, you have plausible deniability. That cannot be maintained with a visible light laser, as video and photographic evidence of same can be captured.
Rick T · July 14, 2023 at 2:36 pm
You don’t need to burn the CCD, just dazzle it with a common laser pointer long enough spay-paint the lens.
dc · July 14, 2023 at 2:55 pm
How come nobody comes up with that idea in Putnam County? Prolly cuz our Sheriff rides a horse.
BobF · July 14, 2023 at 4:04 pm
My bet is Sal is another keyboard warrior who TALKS really big. And my parts&pieces-built of maybe 10 years ago runs 1.5 I think. I know it eats batteries like crazy and has a duty cycle of about 1:1. It does mean things to combustibles, so I think a camera might not fare well with it. Heh. A 5 would be absolutely fun to see in action.
D · July 14, 2023 at 6:15 pm
BobF: I think you’ve got it wrong. Sal posts memes and generally appears to be an “agorist”. He took a screenshot of a question some dunce on Quora asked.
BobF · July 15, 2023 at 5:36 am
D, upon re-reading, you are of course correct. Been saying for years that tech has left me in the dust, but this was pure inattention to detail. Thanks for the correction and apologies to Sal.
D · July 17, 2023 at 8:49 am
BobF: Everyone has their set of skills. I manage some pretty large networks. Some are considered “critical infrastructure”….but you should have seen me when my son bought his first car and wanted to change the oil himself…it took *way* too long for me to even find the old oil filter. And beyond oil changes and fuel, I’m pretty useless with cars. I wish it were the other way around, because a lot of people are getting canned in IT these days, but *everyone* is holding on to their old cars and fixing them up due to the economy. The local mechanic is working about the same number of hours as me, but for the last year he’s been pulling down a lot more than I have.
Like I said, everyone has their set of skills. Don’t stress if computer stuff isn’t in your set.
Dave · July 14, 2023 at 5:21 pm
Accidentally aim for the optical faculties of the operator before sighting in on the camera lens…
Gedeon · July 14, 2023 at 6:13 pm
Full power IR laser ftw.
joe · July 14, 2023 at 7:02 pm
1/2 inch steel bearing to the head solves that problem…
Igor · July 14, 2023 at 10:24 pm
Like CederQ, I and my brother were building our own lasers back in ’66-’68. Ours was a Xenon-pumped synthetic ruby putting out 5KW. Damned dangerous!
There are some really good relatively inexpensive “Photon Cannons” out there that put out visible and are in the 2-3 KW range. Easily focussed down to a nice, tight beam!
YMMV
Han Shot First, He Was No Fool · July 16, 2023 at 9:20 pm
Remember the riots at Syntagma Square in Athens, Greece several years ago?
Some of these people had green lasers in the 500 mW to 2 W range that were effective against surveillance camera CCDs.
So what you have in mind is conceivable since CCDs aren’t made of the toughest stuff.
“… such an act would be illegal under 784.048 …”
Had to use this against a stalker in Florida, it’s super effective, but time consuming.
Hence why Han prefers to shoot first.
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