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Paying Your Debt

Prisoners are complaining that they are being made to work and not receiving high enough wages while in prison.

Uh, it’s not supposed to be a vacation. It isn’t a resort. It’s prison. It’s supposed to suck. That’s why they call it “paying your debt to society.” Remember that next time you are tempted to break the law.

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NO PART of prison should be pleasurable, fun, easy, nice or even okay. In fact, prison should be difficult in every way. Prisons should be just as close to intolerable as can possibly be achieved without actively, consciously harming prisoners. All facets of prison life should absolutely suck.

If the mission is punishment and low rates of recidivism, this is the way to get it done. Sentences could be drastically reduced, and you’d still see amazing results.

Sentenced to death? Push the offenders, handcuffed and shackled, off of 10′ tall platforms onto concrete as many times as it takes. Give them a chance to apologize on live TV between each go. Capital crimes would practically disappear overnight.

Sound cruel? You’re damned right it is.

“NO PART of prison should be pleasurable, fun, easy, nice or even okay. In fact, prison should be difficult in every way. Prisons should be just as close to intolerable as can possibly be achieved without actively, consciously harming prisoners. All facets of prison life should absolutely suck.”

Why? Because you trust that the judge, prosecutor, cops, and jailers were all on the “up and up” and would never lie, cheat, withhold evidence, plant evidence, or just ignore the law in order to put someone they don’t like behind bars?

So, you’re saying that the current state of mollycoddling in the prison system is there because we can’t trust cops and judges? Your idea of cause and effect needs work.

Trust in the authorities hasn’t a thing to do with my proposal anyway.

Corrupt cops, jailers and judges belong in those same prisons. My method will deter crime and reoffending with them just as well as anyone else.

NEXT!

Texas prisons were self sufficient years ago. You in prison? You work. Then the libtards got involved, you know what happened.

This. Why should a society, or an individual through their taxes, have to pay to feed, clothe, house, and supervise an individual who did them harm?

As for punishment … if a punishment isn’t cruel and/or unusual to at least some extent, how is it a deterrent?

The problem is that prisons are big business. I have no problem with true criminals having to pay the piper, but even good everyday people commit four felonies a day just going about their business. Also, the fact that we have a two tiered justice system only makes the injustice worse. The rule of law is dead,dead,dead in this country.

I’m surprised the CPUSA doesn’t supply them with EBT cards and free money in the spirit of egalitarian equity, along with voting registration kits.
We’ll get a Barnie Sandlers or AOC preezy of the steezy one day who will let them all out.

I would use a very simple standard of living for prisoners. In fact, a version of it has already been used. Whatever the field standards are for the military is the standard. If it is tents and MREs, so be it. Minimal conditioning of ambient air, either heating or cooling, whatever is used by the military. Same for food. Work? Bet your ass. I’d be satisfied if prisoners had 10 or 12 hours a day and MAYBE a day off after every 6 days of work. That should be the conditions standard and that is NOT punishment.

Recreation? Well, here punishment begins. No TV or Internet. Computers, OK, but again, no Internet, and no gaming software. Computers compute (maybe keep a mailing address list for writing letters) or serve as readers only.

> Prisoners are complaining that they are being made to work and not receiving high enough wages while in prison.

There’s another option. Despite what most people think, the 13th amendment did not abolish slavery. It only reserved the creation of new slaves to the courts. (any courts, not just Federal)

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Section 1
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
[/snip]

Once the traffic court sentences you to slavery for ignoring all those parking tickets, they can give, lease, or sell you to anyone they wish.

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