New law in Michigan requires reporting all private gun sales to the police. This is simply registration, a necessary precursor for confiscation.

The people that work in the front office deal with this all of time. We will find the answer out for you, how you can legally obtain the gun and get it put in your name

Says the Marquette County Sheriff’s office.


Greg · February 14, 2024 at 11:39 am

There’s a slight downside to buying a gun out of the back of a pickup, in a mall parking lot, from a stranger: How do I anonymously run the number on it to see if it’s reported stolen?

Feral Underclass · February 14, 2024 at 11:55 am

Gun registration is already in place in the US for original purchasers of firearms.

Let me explain.

I purchased a Browning Buckmark .22 in 1987 from a hardware/gun store in Black River Falls, Wisconsin.

In 1995 I sold that gun to a gun store in La Crosse, Wisconsin. I still have the receipt.

In March of 2019, the Lake County, Illinois, Sheriff’s office called me, said they had the Buckmark in their possession, had traced it to me “through ATF records”
(their exact words), and wanted to know my connection to it. I explained the chain of possession as it related to me.

The Sheriff’s office accepted the explanation and I haven’t heard anything more.

So how did Lake County, Illinois trace the gun to me through ATF records if there isn’t an ATF searchable database/registry?

The above happened to me. Not a friend or a friend of a friend or an uncle or a nephew or anyone else. Me.

Whenever I relate the above story to people, it seems especially to FFLs, they are always adamant that there is no gun registry in the US. Bullshit.

Incidentally, for now, in Wisconsin it is still legal to privately sell or purchase a gun without telling anybody anything.

    Divemedic · February 14, 2024 at 12:07 pm

    They could have done a trace through ATF without a registry, but I get your point.

Andrew · February 14, 2024 at 12:23 pm

Batmen traces to the original FFL.
I traded a gun in that I’d got new at another FFL and asked “does this take the gun out of my name.”
Spoiler, no.
If there’s an issue with any gun you got from an FFL as the first purchaser, they’ll ask you about it.

    Jonathan · February 14, 2024 at 12:59 pm

    I’ve read stories were firearms were traced through 7 or more owners – the stories made news because the ATF tried to prosecute the second owner for a crime committed by the seventh owner.
    Both men bought the gun legally in a store.

SoCoRuss · February 14, 2024 at 12:46 pm

I was stationed in the UP in the 90’s. This isn’t any real change. They have had a “SAFETY” inspection for weapons for decades. You had to get a card from the Marquette cop pricks,that card had the weapon and SN on it. You think they didn’t keep a copy on file or in computer.

This stuff has been going on everywhere for decades, just under different names. The gov knows way more about all of us than most people can ever imagine. If you have attended a gun show for the past couple decades your vehicle tags were put in the LE system. If you went to a gun range your info is in the system. I’ve see various types of LE checking out the parking lots of gun show and ranges here on Colorado front range. EVERYTHING you have ever bought with a credit card is in the system and searchable but now everyone is upset about new merchant codes for guns, really? BUT, Knowing you have a gun and coming and taking it is two vastly different issues though.

    Jonesy · February 14, 2024 at 10:45 pm

    Everyone was happy when they ditched the safety inspection years ago, and when CPLs became shall issue.

    It’s pointless to avoid any “registration ” scheme now. As you mention ranges are all now storing your DL info, and your CPL is with the state, and if you bought anything with a credit card they know, and however many form 4473s you’ve filled out….they have so many ways to track you.

J J · February 14, 2024 at 4:26 pm

License to purchase? Anyone in Michigan government heard the words “shall not infringe”?

Max Rockatansky · February 14, 2024 at 10:39 pm

Always save all receipts even if the gun stor owner is acting weird about writing one out.
I will tell them no receipts no transaction.
It is just like anything else under capitalism, if you have the money then you can get it.
The tranny shooter was able to obtain a weapon legally but that is already memory holed.
The homegrown Bolsheviks are hungering for some purging of deplorable kulak untermenschen Pure Bloods.
The polycrisis actors strike again in Kansas City victory parade?

    oldvet50 · February 15, 2024 at 11:26 am

    Sorry, but the tranny shooter was not able to legally obtain a weapon. You cannot legally obtain a firearm if you are mentally deranged. The problem is the rest of the country does not see that condition as a psychiatric disorder. I wish they would stop trying to control the guns and start controlling the people.

      Divemedic · February 15, 2024 at 1:45 pm

      Actually, there is no law against owning a firearm if you are insane, unless you have been found incompetent by a court.

Tsgt Joe · February 15, 2024 at 11:47 am

As others have mentioned, we have had hand gun registration in Michigan for a while. Even private transactions, to be legal require submitting documents to police. To give my michigan son a handgun, he had to procure a permit from the police and submit it upon receipt of the gun. To give my out of state son a handgun required 2 ffl’s, one in michigan and a receiving ffl in other state. Up till now private sale of long guns didnt require documentation.

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