In my earlier post on the Israel/Hamas conflict, I pointed out that war has no rules, and wars should be fought without reservation. The only thing that matters is the survival of your people. This is why wars should never be entered into lightly. That’s why the conflicts in Ukraine and Israel should be none of our concern- on either side. There are no direct US interests there.
With that being said- CNN is purely acting as mouthpieces for Hamas when they put out a story about how people taken hostage should be grateful that Hamas took them hostage because they were provided food and medical care. Uh, what?
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Bigus Macus · November 6, 2023 at 6:31 am
CNN – Cartoon News Network. What a bunch of stooges.
Don W Curton · November 6, 2023 at 8:21 am
Remember, you’re discussing the flip-the-switch scenario when we’re being ruled by people who think you can simply turn-the-dial a little.
All this aid for Ukraine and now for Israel is going set our foreign relations back at least multiple decades. How now will a new president approach Russia to discuss, well, basically anything? And we’ve never had much credibility in the middle east, now we have less than none thanks to Biden/Obama.
The best we can hope for is a nuke on DC and a new govt that is strongly isolationist.
Peter B · November 6, 2023 at 11:22 am
Hamas mouthpiece CNN is also, according to Sundance at Conservative Treehouse, the publicity arm of the US State Department.
Elvis Stalin · November 6, 2023 at 12:21 pm
Halfassing a WAR with a soft weak feminized Karenocracy burns it all down the best.
OBrandon will make sure nothing remains just like the classic demotivational of Bathhouse Barry at a burned out hellscape and the caption, my work here is done.
Scotty · November 7, 2023 at 2:23 pm
Frankly your stance on this matter is incredibly ignorant and small minded.
Divemedic · November 7, 2023 at 3:29 pm
Care to explain? If you disagree, then tell me who decides what the rules are, and how are they enforced? For extra credit, name a war that occurred where no non-combatants were killed…
Scotty · November 7, 2023 at 11:26 pm
Well,
Let’s see. There are The Hague Convention(s). The Geneva Convention(s). The 1925 Geneva Protocol. United Nations Charter. Nuremberg Trials. Nuremberg Principles. 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. 1974 United Nations Declaration on the Protection of Women and Children in Emergency and Armed Conflict. Declaration on the Protection of Women and Children in Emergency and Armed Conflict. 1977 United Nations Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques. 1977 Geneva Protocols. 1980 United Nations Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May be Deemed to be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects (CCW). 1997 Ottawa Treaty.
Now, what that means? There a whole shit load of customary and codified international (and various national) law on how war is supposed to be conducted between civilized nations for the purposes of minimizing civilian casualties; damage to cultural artifacts or historical sites; to minimize or eliminate inhumane treatment of soldiers, civilians, and lawful combatants.
Yeah sure, for the most part it’s all Gentlemen’s Agreements to play nice.
But post Nuremberg, post Yugoslavian civil wars, post Serbo-Coatian Civil war, and Kosovo war the international community has laid teeth to the idea that if you violate the rules of war, the laws of war, you will not get away with it. We are still having discussions about 90-100 year old men maybe having been concentration camp guards or complicit actors to genocide.
Are there rules of war? I dunno ask those Abu-Ghraib guards who went to prison.
Just because we spent 20+ years having a Global War on Terrorism against goat fuckers and pedophiles who lovingly ignored the rules of war, doesn’t mean those laws don’t exist, or that consequences could not happen. It’s just a matter of time and willpower.
As far as wars without Civilian casualties. Yeah, most involve some level of civilian casualties. Quite often a good reason for a war is one side killing or grossly injuring civilians.
The Falklands war: three civilians killed
The Cenepa war between Equator and Peru: no known civilian casualties.
The 102 year war between Montenegro and Japan: no record of civilian casualties, ;no Japanese civilians killed by Montengrons; no Montengron civilians killed by Japanese
About Ukraine and Israel. We are not putting boots on the ground. We can’t in Ukraine, that would be an escalation justifying Russia attacking NATO, which would mean nuclear war. Russia cannot be allowed to win over Ukraine, because they need to take Poland, Romania, and the Baltic states: which means war with NATO, and Russia no knows they cannot win a conventional war against NATO, which means nuclear war via first strike. If however Ukraine fights them off over a long, drawn out, bloody, and brutal war without Ukraine invading Russia proper, it is possible to bleed the Russian military to the point that they cannot continue and Russia will dissolve from within. Russia is a federation of ethnic based states that only remain together under the theory that Moscow simultaneously has the strength to protect them, and to kick the ever loving shit out of them if they try to be independent. A fully bleed out Russian military can provide neither, ergo Russia breaks up and the various ‘stans become sovereign nations with not real power on the international stage.
As for Israel. The only way we’d be putting any US soldiers on the ground would be the use of Socom, Specials Forces, or Tier-1 operators if we get Intel on the location of US hostages. We’re not going to fight Israels war for them.
That said, I have zero problem providing weapons and aid to Israel to cleanse Gaza of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and whomever else doesn’t get the message. It’s time to stop assuming everyone on Earth thinks like we do, some assholes are willing to sacrifice themselves and their own children to kill their neighbors.
McChuck · November 8, 2023 at 1:59 am
The purpose of war is to either exterminate or terrorize (burn, loot, murder, and the threat thereof) the enemy populace until they do your bidding. To do this, you have to break through their defenders and disrupt their governing structures. Fighting enemy military and police forces is merely a means to an end.
Area Ocho · November 8, 2023 at 7:57 am
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